um, ok bill :) Dana
William Wheatley writes: > :) He was nitpicking me earlier so it was payback time lol. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: Re: woo hoo > > > > huh? > > > > William Wheatley writes: > > > > > oop my turn to nitpick grammar > > > > > > but 'the' majority of them > > > > > > and > > > > > > been called a 'rut' but has 'a' feel deeper > > > > > > > > > .... ok nitpicking grammar didn't do anything for me. > > > > > > Kids rock though but not everyone wants them so thats all good too. :> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Nagy, Daniel J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:50 PM > > > Subject: RE: woo hoo > > > > > > > > > > cleveland, charlotte, washinton dc. > > > > > > > > maybe i just spend too much time near crack dens. > > > > > > > > i'm not trying to even voice my personal opinion on having kids onto > this > > > > topic (i'm far too selfish to ever want them.) but he great majority > of > > > them > > > > are just stuck in what might once have been called a 'rut' but has > feel > > > > deeper. it seems to be a lot worse around here in dc than even > cleveland. > > > > > > > > like i should have clarified in my first message, then did my second, > this > > > > slice of americana is of the people i met. this is not a personal > attack > > > on > > > > anyone and their litters. > > > > > > > > --d. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:41 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: woo hoo > > > > > > > > > > > > You need to get out and meet more people. Where I live most people who > are > > > > 28-30ish have 2 or more kids and are quite happy for it. > > > > Lets see. Since getting married and having kids I've co-written 3 > books > > > with > > > > chapters in a few others. Done a few technical videos, started up a > > > > magazine, > > > > written over a gig of CF code, wrote some rather successful sites and > > > helped > > > > out > > > > the community and the growth of ColdFusion immeasurably (in my own > > > opinion). > > > > My > > > > wife has published a few books, edits Fusion Authority, takes PaKua > and > > > > helps me > > > > with my community management. Both of us help raise our children > through > > > the > > > > good and bad and make sure they are taught all that we can. I'm 32. > Judith > > > > is > > > > younger. I have no regrets and neither does she. > > > > But then again we've got a certain outlook on life and community that > may > > > be > > > > missing in some others. We don't see children as a burden but as the > best > > > > thing > > > > in the world. > > > > Where do you live that has such miserable people? > > > > > > > > > > > > > sorry you feel that way. > > > > > > > > > > 95% of the people i've met who've had children before turning > 28-30ish > > > are > > > > > absolutely miserable. of that percentage, i'd say 70-80% agree the > wish > > > > > they'd made a different decision in the matter. most people in their > > > 20's > > > > > haven't even had a chance to grasp real concepts like > love/money/other > > > > > things that take experience to learn. > > > > > > > > > > none of the parents i know have done much with their lives due to > their > > > > > children, tim being the one exception in this case. the majority of > them > > > > are > > > > > in dead end jobs that pay miserably, most of which goes directly > back > > > into > > > > > caring for their litters. children are a gigantic responsability for > 2 > > > > > people, never mind 1 or 2 who haven't even stepped out far into the > > > world. > > > > > > > > > > yes, this obviously does not apply to -every- case of early rearing > that > > > > has > > > > > occured. but in the experience i've had, this is what i've come to > see. > > > > > > > > > > --d. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:58 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: woo hoo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just because you think its a mistake for someone to have kids in > their > > > > 20's > > > > > doesn't mean it is a mistake. You're generalizing too much there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Nagy, Daniel J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:51 PM > > > > > Subject: RE: woo hoo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, as is proven time and time again, there are too > many > > > > > > > people that don't have common sense, respect, or whatever you > want > > > to > > > > > > > call it. > > > > > > > > > > > > you're going to drive me to drink. stop reminding me of this awful > > > fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > People are people, some are good and some are bad. The > > > > > > > libertarian approach is wonderful if all people are good and > respect > > > > > > > each other. But we all know that's not the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > i can respect anyone who can validly make a point. i understand > that > > > > isn't > > > > > > what you mean when you say that, but hence why when ian was > talking > > > > about > > > > > > his view, at least i could understand the logical reasoning, > unlike > > > the > > > > > > female who just told us how she felt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Smoking around non-smokers at a resturaunt is a perfect example. > > > > Polite > > > > > > > people would put out their cigarettes because they know that it > is > > > > > > > affecting other people negatively and as such is impolite and > rude. > > > > But > > > > > > > that doesn't happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't really see why it's the smokers responsability to do so. > if i > > > > had > > > > > > epilepsy, i wouldn't be writing the tv networks asking if they > could > > > > > change > > > > > > the frequency of color changes. if someone has a problem with a > > > > > > person/place/thing, the smart thing to do is usually avoid those > > > places. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Philosophically, I completely agree with the libertarian stance > of > > > > > > > individual responsibility. In reality though I just don't see > > > people, > > > > > > > libertarians included, being responsible and respectful enough > to > > > > > > > justify an unmitigated adoption of the philosophy. Actions speak > > > > louder > > > > > > > than words. Sad, really. > > > > > > > > > > > > scary. :) seriously, i agree with you 100% that people on the > whole > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > responsible enough to handle their own problems. lord knows how > many > > > > times > > > > > > i've met people in their early 20's who already have spawned 1 or > 2, > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > pisses the hell out of me a good amount of them got a > micropercentage > > > of > > > > > my > > > > > > tax dollars to aid in their mistake. > > > > > > > > > > > > i don't think it's so much of a mental problem as a societal > problem > > > > which > > > > > > really began with the new deal. children in this country are doted > > > upon > > > > > far > > > > > > too much, then when the stark fist of reality comes about, they go > > > > looking > > > > > > for a new parent instead of wiping their own ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > </rant> > > > > > > > > > > > > --d. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. 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