cleveland, charlotte, washinton dc. maybe i just spend too much time near crack dens.
i'm not trying to even voice my personal opinion on having kids onto this topic (i'm far too selfish to ever want them.) but he great majority of them are just stuck in what might once have been called a 'rut' but has feel deeper. it seems to be a lot worse around here in dc than even cleveland. like i should have clarified in my first message, then did my second, this slice of americana is of the people i met. this is not a personal attack on anyone and their litters. --d. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:41 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: woo hoo You need to get out and meet more people. Where I live most people who are 28-30ish have 2 or more kids and are quite happy for it. Lets see. Since getting married and having kids I've co-written 3 books with chapters in a few others. Done a few technical videos, started up a magazine, written over a gig of CF code, wrote some rather successful sites and helped out the community and the growth of ColdFusion immeasurably (in my own opinion). My wife has published a few books, edits Fusion Authority, takes PaKua and helps me with my community management. Both of us help raise our children through the good and bad and make sure they are taught all that we can. I'm 32. Judith is younger. I have no regrets and neither does she. But then again we've got a certain outlook on life and community that may be missing in some others. We don't see children as a burden but as the best thing in the world. Where do you live that has such miserable people? > sorry you feel that way. > > 95% of the people i've met who've had children before turning 28-30ish are > absolutely miserable. of that percentage, i'd say 70-80% agree the wish > they'd made a different decision in the matter. most people in their 20's > haven't even had a chance to grasp real concepts like love/money/other > things that take experience to learn. > > none of the parents i know have done much with their lives due to their > children, tim being the one exception in this case. the majority of them are > in dead end jobs that pay miserably, most of which goes directly back into > caring for their litters. children are a gigantic responsability for 2 > people, never mind 1 or 2 who haven't even stepped out far into the world. > > yes, this obviously does not apply to -every- case of early rearing that has > occured. but in the experience i've had, this is what i've come to see. > > --d. > > -----Original Message----- > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:58 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: woo hoo > > > Just because you think its a mistake for someone to have kids in their 20's > doesn't mean it is a mistake. You're generalizing too much there. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nagy, Daniel J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:51 PM > Subject: RE: woo hoo > > > > > Unfortunately, as is proven time and time again, there are too many > > > people that don't have common sense, respect, or whatever you want to > > > call it. > > > > you're going to drive me to drink. stop reminding me of this awful fact. > > > > > People are people, some are good and some are bad. The > > > libertarian approach is wonderful if all people are good and respect > > > each other. But we all know that's not the case. > > > > i can respect anyone who can validly make a point. i understand that isn't > > what you mean when you say that, but hence why when ian was talking about > > his view, at least i could understand the logical reasoning, unlike the > > female who just told us how she felt. > > > > > Smoking around non-smokers at a resturaunt is a perfect example. Polite > > > people would put out their cigarettes because they know that it is > > > affecting other people negatively and as such is impolite and rude. But > > > that doesn't happen. > > > > i don't really see why it's the smokers responsability to do so. if i had > > epilepsy, i wouldn't be writing the tv networks asking if they could > change > > the frequency of color changes. if someone has a problem with a > > person/place/thing, the smart thing to do is usually avoid those places. > > > > > Philosophically, I completely agree with the libertarian stance of > > > individual responsibility. In reality though I just don't see people, > > > libertarians included, being responsible and respectful enough to > > > justify an unmitigated adoption of the philosophy. Actions speak louder > > > than words. Sad, really. > > > > scary. :) seriously, i agree with you 100% that people on the whole are > not > > responsible enough to handle their own problems. lord knows how many times > > i've met people in their early 20's who already have spawned 1 or 2, and > it > > pisses the hell out of me a good amount of them got a micropercentage of > my > > tax dollars to aid in their mistake. > > > > i don't think it's so much of a mental problem as a societal problem which > > really began with the new deal. children in this country are doted upon > far > > too much, then when the stark fist of reality comes about, they go looking > > for a new parent instead of wiping their own ass. > > > > </rant> > > > > --d. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
