yea see i don't like the idea of making jokes being a sueable offense
all the stories say this was the FRIENDS of the kid not students who goto
his school. Oh well




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William H Bowen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fat Brat sues


> But upon who's judgement will this be based?
>
> The humourless bastard down the block or some committee like the MPAA:
>
> "It is the judgement of this panel that your Class 1-A Humiliating Joke
> (ref: AB3BCDFD-0035-DA36-071409C2DBE49D00 ) "Pants-ing" has been rated
> PG-13 -- thusly only requiring nominal parental notification, and
> negating the right of the subject to sue in the event the subjects'
> embarrassment, humiliation, etc. providing a fully executed hold
> harmless document is submitted to this committee with 10 days of final
> subject approval -- forms for identification of potential subjects of
> the referenced joke (AB3BCDFD-0035-DA36-071409C2DBE49D00) will be found
> attached. You will be notified of "go - no go" status in 3 to 6 weeks
> pending full investigation of the intended subjects' physical, mental
> and financial condidtions. If subject is not considered physically,
> mentall, financially able to withstand the full brunt of joke
> (AB3BCDFD-0035-DA36-071409C2DBE49D00) you will be notified and execution
> of said joke (AB3BCDFD-0035-DA36-071409C2DBE49D00) can proceed only if
> this committee receives the fully executed hold harmless document.
>
> Thanks and as always -- Have fun :-)"
>
> ^_^
>
> will
>
>
> William Wheatley wrote:
>
> >So people can't do jokes anymore? Because alot of jokes have GOTCHAS and
you
> >feel like a retard for a bit and then it passes.
> >Will we have a joke scale now to see when its TOO humilating?
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 4:33 PM
> >Subject: RE: Fat Brat sues
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>I stand by my argument that a deliberate attempt to humiliate someone
> >>that results in significant psychological trauma should be grounds for
> >>litigation. That said, with every rule there are definite limitations as
> >>to what it is for and how it should be applied, and each case should
> >>have the ability to stand on its own merits.
> >>
> >>In the two cases you provided, war and the disturbance in the alley,
> >>this rule would not apply. It is generally acknowledged that one's
> >>presence in a wartime situation will be traumatic at some level. The
> >>soldier in a modern, volunteer army will have placed themselves in that
> >>situation knowing the potential for harm. Additionally, in this
> >>particular arena, soldiers on either side do everything they can to blow
> >>up the other guys, and nations recognize this. In the same way no one
> >>can be convicted for murdering an enemy combatant in the course of
> >>combat, no can should be able to sue for emotional distress resulting
> >>from being in a war.
> >>
> >>As for the case of people getting it on in the alley, one would presume
> >>the intent of these people was not to cause harm of any sort to anyone.
> >>If someone came before me to say they were traumatized by watching two
> >>people engage in consensual adult activities, I would find it difficult
> >>to sympathize with that person's argument. There is a massive difference
> >>between 'disturbed' and 'damaged', and it is reasonable to assume that
> >>most reasonable people would be able to quickly leave this event behind
> >>them.
> >>
> >>Now, if in the second case it were your mother, and she was being forced
> >>to do this, and the person did this to get back at you for whatever
> >>reason, that's another story. But I have trouble with seeing how either
> >>of these cases could be seen as a deliberate attempt to humiliate anyone
> >>or cause anyone lasting psychological harm.
> >>
> >>M
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:55 PM
> >>To: CF-Community
> >>Subject: Re: Fat Brat sues
> >>
> >>
> >>Ok let me try to take a Dana type logical approach and dissect your
> >>argument ;).
> >>
> >>And I agree they were trying to embarrass him.
> >>
> >>So saying because he was traumatized by that he can sue. Can the
> >>soliders who sign up for military service and see someone get blown to
> >>bits can they sue for emotional distress? What about when my daughter
> >>saw someone get murdered if she was emotionally disturbed should she be
> >>able to sue the murderer??
> >>
> >>If i saw someone having sex in an alley and it disturbed me?
> >>
> >>I mean of course they can sue but i hope people are not rewarded for
> >>being dumbasses.
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- 
> >>From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:37 PM
> >>Subject: RE: Fat Brat sues
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Bill, I got to disagree with you on this one. I think the actions of
> >>>those kids was intended to publicly humiliate this kid and that they
> >>>had no right to put that up without his permission. If the kid is
> >>>traumatized as a result, he should have the right to sue. This should
> >>>be regardless of the fact they made money off the action, the question
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>is whether or not they hurt this person in some meaningful way. My
> >>>take on it is, yes, they did.
> >>>
> >>>M
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:30 PM
> >>>To: CF-Community
> >>>Subject: Re: Fat Brat sues
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Sure file a criminal complaint.
> >>>
> >>>And if they MADE money off it sue, or sue to get it removed but this
> >>>emotional distress crap has gotten way out of hand. People can't deal
> >>>with life so they have to get money to get comfort. The problem is
> >>>even spreading to canada now :) Oh boy that can be the american legacy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>a bunch of whiney people who gotta sue for everything.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> 
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