Ah. Well, I consider this to be a non-issue, but fwiw I grew went to fairly
conservative catholic schools in Canada and don't remember homosexuality
ever being discussed. On the other hand I have seen a number of
conservative "christian" ministers all but froth at the mouth when the
subject arises. But I am not all that churchgoing a person abd your mileage
may vary.

Kevin Graeme writes:

> Tim asked "Shouldn't they be able to say no gay ministers?" My point is
> that it was a case where the church in question _is_ making the choice
> and it's to have a gay bishop. I was just pointing out that the
> Episcopalian Church is not part of the Catholic Church and thus isn't
> bound by Catholic dogma.
> 
> If you want to get into whether they are both Christian and thus must
> have the same rules about homosexuality, IIRC, while the old testament
> wasn't terribly kind towards homosexuals, the new testament is about
> forgiveness. And the majority of the Catholic doctrine against
> homosexuality is actually from the separate writings of St. Paul which
> are separate from the bible but canon to the catholics.
> 
> If you want to take a step back and look at it from a sociological
> viewpoint, some of the teachings in the old testament/Torah appear to be
> reactionary to create a separation between the Jews and, say, the
> Egyptians or Romans. The lessons teach an opposition to things the Jews
> didn't care for in the people they were subjugated to. That's not to
> diminish the religion, just that every religion is in part a product of
> it's history.
> 
> -Kevin
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:35 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent....
> > 
> > 
> > Episcopalians still follow the bible dont they? I am not sure 
> > why you think Time thinks he is Catholic.
> > 
> > Kevin Graeme writes:
> > 
> > > In this particular case, it's the Episcopalian Church that 
> > was about 
> > > to explicitly say "yes" to a gay bishop. Different Church 
> > than if he 
> > > was Catholic.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Yet another scumbag parent....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wait. I have no problem with anyone based on sexual
> > > > preference, however, how can one claim to be a "Christian" 
> > > > after the bible says sodomy is a no go, and god killed a 
> > > > bunch of those that practiced it?  Not to mention is the 
> > > > church free to make whatever bylaws it wants?  Shouldn't they 
> > > > be able to say no gay ministers?  I mean the military still 
> > > > does and that's a government institution.
> > > > 
> > > > Timothy Heald
> > > > Information Systems Specialist
> > > > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > > U.S. Department of State
> > > > 571.345.2235
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:40 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Yet another scumbag parent....
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't that what's happening now, i.e., Laramie Wyoming and
> > > > the most recent 
> > > > election fiasco with the Episcopalian Church.
> > > > 
> > > > larry
> > > > 
> > > > At 01:33 PM 8/5/2003 -0500, Doug White wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >If we decriminalized these so-called crimes what would be
> > > > left for the
> > > > >right-wing to do?  Gang up on the homos?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
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