I was never a big fan of AD&D -- less because of the world than because of the game mechanics... Same of Shadowrun... though I thought that, as with almost all sci-fi games, especially cyberpunk genre, interpretations of cultural response to technology was... wacked. :)
Lets say I had a tough time with suspension of disbelief where a lot of cyberpunk (including Shadowrun) was concerned. :) Yes yes, I know -- that's why it's fiction / fantasy -- but it's not so much the logistics that bug me, but rather the way characters are portrayed -- it's frequently written as being popular for them to make decisions that I don't think real people would make with any frequency. Like elective brain-surgery being the next best thing to sliced bread when you can produce similar results with speech recognition and artificially intelligent but otherwise fairly normal software. But then I cut my teeth on Champions (the original b&w boxed set), and have owned a copy of every edition of the core rules for it since then up until this latest 5e book that I don't have. Though as time passed my interrest in Champions was less and less literal and more and more nostalgic. Buying the books more or less to see what they change and how they change it. I even have a copy of Champions New Millenium, the Fuzion book -- before Fuzion died (and of course, no relation to ColdFusion). Along with Bubblegum Crisis. But champions in general featured rather complex rules -- nowadays if I'm gonna play I don't want to have to perform repeated long-division every time we go through a fight scene. I don't mind complexity during character design, I even prefer it because I think it encourages detailed / descriptive characters, especially in "build systems" (as opposed to largely randomized systems) -- but it also needs consistency which Champions never really had. And although I'm ashamed to admit it... For anyone who's morbidly curious about what I did with my misbegotten youth (till about 5 years ago when I got into IT and ColdFusion), I have a PDF copy of my own rules system here: http://www.turnkey.to/pipedream/imr.pdf I spent 7 years drafting that damn thing just for it to go nowhere. Too bad there's no money in it. Though every once in a while I have nostalgic thoughts about firing it up again and having another go at publishing it seriously -- perhaps writing edgy, adult-oriented materials like Sin City. As the gaming community by and large is older now (although many of them are like myself without real time to enjoy it), adult-oriented materials might actually do fairly well in what microscopic market there is for this stuff... and afaik it's about the only genre tactic that hasn't been tried for rpg marketing ... yet ... or if it has I haven't seen it. But I'm sure if it hasn't it will soon enough. ike ------ Original Message ------ From: Heald, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Aug 28, 2003 01:59 PM Subject: RE: Underworld was(RE: romantic ideas needed???) >Me too man. Mostly AD&D, Vampire and my personal favorite Shadowrun. > >Tim > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:14 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Underworld was(RE: romantic ideas needed???) > > >The creators of the Matrix were big fans of Mage the Ascension. :) > >ike > >(Who has stacks of roleplaying books on the floor in his living room that he >never gets to use 'cause he's too busy working.) > > >------ Original Message ------ >From: Heald, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Aug 28, 2003 10:56 AM >Subject: Re: Underworld was(RE: romantic ideas needed???) > >>Man doesn't that look amazing. >> >>Someone played some white wolf when they were younger :) >> >>Tim >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:52 AM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: RE: romantic ideas needed??? >> >> >>2 years dinner and a movie... Underworld would be good. >> >> >>Rick >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Ihrig Paul E Cont 88 ABW/EM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 7:46 AM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: romantic ideas needed??? >> >>2 year wedding anniversary this weekend. >> >>i am coming up blank... >>need ideas.. >> >>have looked at cabins hotels, cheap flights... >>may just buy jewelry? not sure what the 2 year deal is. >>cheese? >> >>man, im in trouble! >>=] >>-paul >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
