Our history of friendship with the eastern European nations began in the
last 10 years, prior to that they were soviet aligned. Germany, which is
having a resurgence of anti-american sentiment, has only been our friend
since we installed our government there after WW2, and the current
administration there is not what one would call cozy.

Italy is practically a communist nation, France is falling to the fascists
and the radical islamists (weird to see those two groups working together,
but it's true).  How far do you really think it would have to go Larry?
France and Germany were each others largest trade partners prior to opening
hostilities in WW 2.  After that it was Germany and Russia, you saw how long
that took to collapse.

Lets not forget how fast things change.

Plus remember the times I am talking about here.  Not tomorrow.  Years,
decades even.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:51 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony


At 03:19 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
>While no one currently has the amphibious ability to assault the US, it
>wouldn't take more than a year or two to create it.  Additionally if this
>were a U.N. sanctioned invasion then Canada and Mexico would probably be
>happy to participate.

Poland I think had the only other amphibious capacity. Since they downsized 
their military I am not sure whether that is true.

But lest be real about Canada and Mexico. The US would have to be acting 
pretty egregious for a long while before something like that would happen. 
Moreover long before a military invasion would occur there are better ways 
of bringing the US to its needs. Both Canada and Mexico shut down their oil 
and gas pipelines, and stop all other energy transmissions. It would take 
less than a week for the US to come begging.


>Also our ties to Canada are becoming more and more strained.  Unfortunately
>this is almost completely our own fault.

Yes given the current disagreements over resources industries, and which 
industry groups just happen to be the strongest Shrub supporters, I'm not 
very surprised. Hey if you can't win by honest competition...


>Mexico is kind of funny.  There is actually a big movement there (and in
the
>U.S.) to return large parts of our country to Mexico.  Something about
>Aztlan.
>
>China has both the military and the industrial ability to attempt something
>like this if we weren't militarily prepared.  Brazil and a coalition of
>south American states could also pull off something similar.  Not sure if
>you guys are paying attention but most of S. America is being run by
radical
>socialists that are aligned with Cuba at this point.

Um there are good reasons for them to be aligned towards Cuba on a lot of 
issues against the US. The only countries now supporting the Cuba embargo 
are the US and I believe Israel. Remember also that Cuba has played it very 
smart over the last few years, sending health workers etc to assist the 
various Latin American countries. But I would not characterize the 
governments of Argentina or Equador as radical Socialist. Nor Peru or 
Bolivia. You might say that about Venezuala, but given that Chaves is 
facing a recall vote this spring, that government may change. Also most of 
the central american countries are rather right wing, especially when 
compared to Cuba.




>I could see the EU becoming an enemy in the next 20-50 years, not like we
>haven't fought a few wars there.


The EU has much of a long history of being allied to the US. For it to 
become an enemy would take quite a bit. Mind you Shrub and friends have 
been working over time on that one.



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