Berlusconi (PM of Italy) is communist? Ouch that one must be news to him. 
He's to the right of Murdoch even. I just don't think it will happen, not 
for at least a century if at all. Europe and the EU has much too much to lose.

larry

At 04:20 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
>Our history of friendship with the eastern European nations began in the
>last 10 years, prior to that they were soviet aligned. Germany, which is
>having a resurgence of anti-american sentiment, has only been our friend
>since we installed our government there after WW2, and the current
>administration there is not what one would call cozy.
>
>Italy is practically a communist nation, France is falling to the fascists
>and the radical islamists (weird to see those two groups working together,
>but it's true).  How far do you really think it would have to go Larry?
>France and Germany were each others largest trade partners prior to opening
>hostilities in WW 2.  After that it was Germany and Russia, you saw how long
>that took to collapse.
>
>Lets not forget how fast things change.
>
>Plus remember the times I am talking about here.  Not tomorrow.  Years,
>decades even.
>
>Tim
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:51 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Switzerland and Peace & Harmony
>
>
>At 03:19 PM 9/9/2003, you wrote:
> >While no one currently has the amphibious ability to assault the US, it
> >wouldn't take more than a year or two to create it.  Additionally if this
> >were a U.N. sanctioned invasion then Canada and Mexico would probably be
> >happy to participate.
>
>Poland I think had the only other amphibious capacity. Since they downsized
>their military I am not sure whether that is true.
>
>But lest be real about Canada and Mexico. The US would have to be acting
>pretty egregious for a long while before something like that would happen.
>Moreover long before a military invasion would occur there are better ways
>of bringing the US to its needs. Both Canada and Mexico shut down their oil
>and gas pipelines, and stop all other energy transmissions. It would take
>less than a week for the US to come begging.
>
>
> >Also our ties to Canada are becoming more and more strained.  Unfortunately
> >this is almost completely our own fault.
>
>Yes given the current disagreements over resources industries, and which
>industry groups just happen to be the strongest Shrub supporters, I'm not
>very surprised. Hey if you can't win by honest competition...
>
>
> >Mexico is kind of funny.  There is actually a big movement there (and in
>the
> >U.S.) to return large parts of our country to Mexico.  Something about
> >Aztlan.
> >
> >China has both the military and the industrial ability to attempt something
> >like this if we weren't militarily prepared.  Brazil and a coalition of
> >south American states could also pull off something similar.  Not sure if
> >you guys are paying attention but most of S. America is being run by
>radical
> >socialists that are aligned with Cuba at this point.
>
>Um there are good reasons for them to be aligned towards Cuba on a lot of
>issues against the US. The only countries now supporting the Cuba embargo
>are the US and I believe Israel. Remember also that Cuba has played it very
>smart over the last few years, sending health workers etc to assist the
>various Latin American countries. But I would not characterize the
>governments of Argentina or Equador as radical Socialist. Nor Peru or
>Bolivia. You might say that about Venezuala, but given that Chaves is
>facing a recall vote this spring, that government may change. Also most of
>the central american countries are rather right wing, especially when
>compared to Cuba.
>
>
>
>
> >I could see the EU becoming an enemy in the next 20-50 years, not like we
> >haven't fought a few wars there.
>
>
>The EU has much of a long history of being allied to the US. For it to
>become an enemy would take quite a bit. Mind you Shrub and friends have
>been working over time on that one.
>
>
>
>
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