No problem. Being respectful is always to be lauded and that was your
intent. Etymology is an armchair hobby of mine, and what's really
frustrating is when you hear "the origin of x is y" and it seems really
interesting, it's also usually wrong.

For instance, just last night I saw an ad for some show on History or
Discovery or something that talked about how in this particular western town
the price of a bullet was 20 cents and the bartender would trade customers a
little bit of whiskey for each bullet and that's how it came to be known as
a "shot". So I quickly whipped out the OED and found references to a "shot"
of a liquid predating the American old west. Ah well. It sounded neat and
it's a great folktale.

-Kevin


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adam Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Rule of Thumb (was Re: Wine help)


> I stand corrected!  Thanks for clearing this up for me.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Graeme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:10 PM
> Subject: Rule of Thumb (was Re: Wine help)
>
>
> > > You know, I thought the very same thing until I saw it repeated in the
> > movie
> > > "Boondock Saints."  Just blew me away that it was anything more than
> legal
> > > trivia.  Apparently there are some women that are very offended by the
> > term,
> > > so out of respect I don't use it anymore.  Still have to catch myself,
> > > though.
> >
> > As I said before, the origin of the phrase had nothing to do with wife
> > beating. From the OED:
> >
> > Rule of Thumb:
> >
> > 1. A method or procedure derived entirely from practice or experience,
> > without any basis in scientific knowledge; a roughly practical method.
> Also,
> > a particular stated rule that is based on practice or experience.
> >
> >   1692 SIR W. HOPE Fencing-Master 157 What he doth, he doth by rule of
> > Thumb, and not by Art. 1721 KELLY Scot. Prov. 257 No Rule so good as
Rule
> of
> > Thumb, if it hit. 1785 GROSE Dict. Vulgar T., Thumb, by rule of thumb,
to
> do
> > a thing by dint of practice. 1802 Sporting Mag. XX. 17 Too often did she
> > apportion the drugs by the rule of thumb. 1865 M. ARNOLD Ess. Crit. v.
159
> > The English..have in all their changes proceeded, to use a familiar
> > expression, by the rule of thumb...
> >
> > Also, people who were against the disciplines of science and mathematics
> > were referred to as "thumbites".
> >
> > There is some moderately recent history though in which courts
mistakenly
> > made the attribution, one in North Carolina, but it's not the actual
> origin
> > of the term. Even judges can be wrong.
> >
> > http://dynamic.uoregon.edu/~jjf/essays/ruleofthumb.html
> > http://www.straightdope.com/columns/000512.html
> >
> > While I agree that abuse against women should not be condoned, I
> personally
> > prefer to respect and preserve the original and intended use of the
> language
> > rather than excise a term because of an urban legend.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> >
> 
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