From: Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2003 8:49 am
Subject: Re:CF Salary Range
> Kwang Suh wrote:
> >>No. The cost and speed of moving a finished product to the other
> side of
> >>the world are much lower in the case of IT as in other cases.
> Not to
> >>mention that for certain jobs presence close to the market is
> simply a
> >>requirement (how is a doctor on the other side of the world
> going to fix
> >>your broken leg?).
> >
> >In the case of doctors, in Canada at least (and I'm fairly
> certain the US),
> >only people who get their education in North America (and some
> other western
> >countried, IIRC) can practice medicine in Canada. Foreign
> doctors cannot
> >practice here. That's your barrier to entry right there. If foreign
> >doctors were recognized, there would be a ton of doctors vying
> for visas to
> >come over here.
>
> This wasn't about immigration of people, but about emigration of jobs.
Ah, but many times they are one and the same. A company will outsource an operation overseas, only to have the overseas company bring people over as a result. Bottom line: a loss of jobs here.
> >And if it were cost effective, rest assured companies would
> >fly you over to India for medical treatment.
>
> And the reason it isn't cost effective is the transport cost.
> Moving bytes from one end of the word to the other is virtually free.
Point being that companies will do whatever it takes to save money and increase profits.
> >Many engineering degrees are not recognized here either. Thus, most
> >companies avoid using overseas firms for much of this work here
> because>they're used to working with accredited engineers.
> Another barrier to
> >entry.
>
> A barrier to entry, but not a barrier to jobs moving oversee.
No, because many designations are only valid in certain countries.
> (BTW, if you are accredited, it becomes much easier to enter as
> when no accredition had existed in the first place, because you
> are obviously a highly qualified specialist.)
We need to get out of the certwhore IT mentality, and need to realize that practical experience under the guidance of mentors is a required component in create quality IT people.
> >In accounting, it's even worse. The Canadian Chartered Accountant
> >designation is only partially recognized in the US.
>
> Probably because they are lacking in the "how to cover for
> Enron/WorldCom fraud" department.
Oh, we've had our share of frauds :) As it stands right now, Canadian accounting rules are more lax that most G-7 countries, including the US.
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