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Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\) writes:

> Yeah that is a good one. I remember when I interviewed here years ago, I
> mentioned that I had a LAN and webserver at home. They asked me, "Why?"
> I said, "Why not?" 5 minutes later I ws filling out my tax forms and
> NDA.
>  
>  
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Re:CF Salary Range
>
>
> The best interview question I ever had asked of me (for tech support) -
> "Describe your computer to me."
>
> Dana
>
> Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\) writes:
>
> > To me, I could care less if they have a cert. It's all about
> experience.
> > That's why doctors have to work in hospitals a few years before they
> can
> > graduate and even then, its more work in the field before they are
> given
> > more advancement.
> >  
> > One problem I see are these "technical schools" that promise to have
> you
> > in and out in 6 weeks with an MSCE, MCP, CCNA, A+, etc. They just have
> > you memorize answers to the tests and send you on your way. What
> really
> > kills me is that they also tell you you will be making 70k a year as
> > soon as you graduate and get your first job. That may be the case with
> > some people but I don't think the companies hiring them know much
> > either.
> >  
> > I started at the bottom and worked my way up. I was lucky to find some
> > small family owned consulting service that was willing to let me learn
> > and teach me as I worked there. I made less then 20k a year but I was
> > getting real world experience with network, repair, programming, web
> > design, concepts, you name it.
> >  
> > I've worked side by wide with MSCEs who just learned about computers
> 12
> > months before and it shows. They can only troubleshoot what they know
> > and not rule out anything outside their scope of knowledge. I've also
> > worked with people who started programming on an Apple II when they
> were
> > 6 years old and they are a wealth of knowledge.
> >  
> > Some kind of mentor program may work. If I was hiring anyone, I would
> > really take a look at what they have done with technology as far as a
> > hobby and in previous employment.
> >  
> > IMHO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 12:10 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Re:CF Salary Range
> >
> >
> > > We need to get out of the certwhore IT mentality, and need to
> realize
> > that practical experience under the guidance of mentors is a required
> > component in create quality IT people.
> >
> > Perhaps an apprenticeship program. Or certification that requires
> > hands-on
> > knowledge. I've talked to my share of ignorant MCSEs. But perhaps the
> > problem is in THAT certification rather than the whole certification
> > concept.
> >
> > Dana
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