Yes, I'll agree on that.

- Matt Small
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jeffry Houser
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 4:36 PM
  Subject: Re: CF Salary Range


    In the past few years most of it has been either CF or (more recently)
  .NET.  Going farther back, it would have been Lotus Notes-stuff
  (LotusScript is a derivative of VB).

    Would you agree that design can be done separate of a specific
  language?  I'd agree with you when you say that most of the programs I've
  looked at were not well written.  However, I think some design work before
  starting to code would have helped tremendously.


  At 04:05 PM 10/1/2003 -0500, you wrote:
  >Subject: CF Salary Range
  >From: "Matthew Small" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 16:00:30 -0400
  >Thread:
  >http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=9858&forumid=5#90529
  >
  >Of course you are right that they share some underlying concepts, but
  >modular programming is out, was out when I finished my degree 3 years ago,
  >and is not being taught because most of today's programming environments
  >do not lend themselves to modular concepts (I would say the web dev area
  >being one that does).
  >
  >That said, many people tend to use modular programming because it is the
  >most evidently logical.
  >OOP is a bit abstract and many people never do get it.  However, we also
  >need to look at the area of development that you are working in - is it
  >mostly CF?  If it is, of course, then, you are not dealing with an OO
  >language.  If it was C++, I would say the programs you'e looking at are
  >probably not well written.

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