Ben,

Have you tried out the EditCSS extension for MozillaFirebird.  To me,
this makes Moz the ultimate design browser.  You can browse to any
website, open the side panel and edit the CSS have view the changes
live.  That is way too cool.

marlon

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Ben Doom wrote:

> Safari is pretty standards-based.  It's not perfect, but it's much
> closer than IE is.
>
> So the real question is whether to consider something "ready for
> primetime" if it's not IE compatible.
>
> My boss uses Safari as his primary browser, and most sites we have
> written work fine.  The one we have that has a problem is currently
> being fixed.
>
> Personally, I think that Safari is a far better browser than IE/Mac by
> far, and certainly no worse than IE/Windows.  But that's the point of
> view of a programmer who uses Mozilla, so take with plenty of salt.
>
> --BenD
>
> Samuel Neff wrote:
>
> > We had a report from a user of an error on one of our apps when
> viewing with
> > Safari, but even that user confirmed it works fine for him in IE.  I
> just
> > got a Mac OSX a few hours ago and started testing things out with
> Safari and
> > found a lot of things don't work right--some consistently but most
> > inconsistently.
> >
> > Our graphic designer says he uses Safari as his primary browser but
> often
> > has trouble with some public web sites and when that happens he
> switches to
> > IE for those sites and they work fine.
> >
> > So, is Safari really ready for prime time?  It is fully released and
> out of
> > beta, right?  What do average users (non-programmers) think when
> they run
> > into pages that don't display properly in Safari?  Do they blame (maybe
> > curse) the developers?
> >
> > How many people out there say they support Safari on their
> sites?  Do you
> > actively test with it?  If so are there known issues with work-arounds?
> >
> > We're having trouble with both Flash related and pure-HTML
> pages.  In one
> > case we have a frameset and a little over half the time the bottom frame
> > never shows up.  We can do a view source and all the right content
> is there.
> > If we save it locally and load it's there.  If we open the frame in
> a new
> > window it's there.  But inside the frameset, it's not always
> there--but it's
> > inconsistent.
> >
> > Also, is there a good mailing list or forum for safari
> questions?  All I saw
> > was the Apple web-development list which is everything including the
> kitchen
> > sink in one list (apache, dhtml, _javascript_, php, mysql, safari,
> whatever).
> > Not my idea of a productive list and since being subscribed for a
> few hours
> > I haven't had a single message yet, so maybe it's not active either.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sam
> >
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