Wow.  Is that off Mozilladev?

--BenD

Marlon Moyer wrote:

> Ben,
>
> Have you tried out the EditCSS extension for MozillaFirebird.  To me,
> this makes Moz the ultimate design browser.  You can browse to any
> website, open the side panel and edit the CSS have view the changes
> live.  That is way too cool.
>
> marlon
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Ben Doom wrote:
>
>  > Safari is pretty standards-based.  It's not perfect, but it's much
>  > closer than IE is.
>  >
>  > So the real question is whether to consider something "ready for
>  > primetime" if it's not IE compatible.
>  >
>  > My boss uses Safari as his primary browser, and most sites we have
>  > written work fine.  The one we have that has a problem is currently
>  > being fixed.
>  >
>  > Personally, I think that Safari is a far better browser than IE/Mac by
>  > far, and certainly no worse than IE/Windows.  But that's the point of
>  > view of a programmer who uses Mozilla, so take with plenty of salt.
>  >
>  > --BenD
>  >
>  > Samuel Neff wrote:
>  >
>  > > We had a report from a user of an error on one of our apps when
>  > viewing with
>  > > Safari, but even that user confirmed it works fine for him in IE.  I
>  > just
>  > > got a Mac OSX a few hours ago and started testing things out with
>  > Safari and
>  > > found a lot of things don't work right--some consistently but most
>  > > inconsistently.
>  > >
>  > > Our graphic designer says he uses Safari as his primary browser but
>  > often
>  > > has trouble with some public web sites and when that happens he
>  > switches to
>  > > IE for those sites and they work fine.
>  > >
>  > > So, is Safari really ready for prime time?  It is fully released and
>  > out of
>  > > beta, right?  What do average users (non-programmers) think when
>  > they run
>  > > into pages that don't display properly in Safari?  Do they blame (maybe
>  > > curse) the developers?
>  > >
>  > > How many people out there say they support Safari on their
>  > sites?  Do you
>  > > actively test with it?  If so are there known issues with work-arounds?
>  > >
>  > > We're having trouble with both Flash related and pure-HTML
>  > pages.  In one
>  > > case we have a frameset and a little over half the time the bottom
> frame
>  > > never shows up.  We can do a view source and all the right content
>  > is there.
>  > > If we save it locally and load it's there.  If we open the frame in
>  > a new
>  > > window it's there.  But inside the frameset, it's not always
>  > there--but it's
>  > > inconsistent.
>  > >
>  > > Also, is there a good mailing list or forum for safari
>  > questions?  All I saw
>  > > was the Apple web-development list which is everything including the
>  > kitchen
>  > > sink in one list (apache, dhtml, _javascript_, php, mysql, safari,
>  > whatever).
>  > > Not my idea of a productive list and since being subscribed for a
>  > few hours
>  > > I haven't had a single message yet, so maybe it's not active either.
>  > >
>  > > Thanks,
>  > >
>  > > Sam
>  > >
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