tightened. Mind you I am much more familiar with the border around parts of
northwestern Ontario that that is a different story.
larry
At 02:57 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
>I have been near the border in Washington state at night (camping), and it
>sounded like a highway with people tramping through the woods across the
>border in both directions.
>
>There are well marked paths that are not difficult to traverse, even at night.
>
>Jerry Johnson
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/03 02:32PM >>>
>The please show this so-called documentation, just don't make assertions
>about it. Just saying its so doesn't make it true.
>
>I take it you've never been to the border, yes there are areas where it is
>difficult to patrol, for very good reason, its swamp and rock. Its not
>something where you can just stroll through. Even the locals in these
>places would not try to go through the areas. I know I spent a lot of time
>as a kid in northwestern Ontario very close to the border. It went through
>areas where you don't want to go through, unless you have no qualms about
>being up to your neck in swamp and bog.
>
>larry
>
>At 12:15 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
> >Excuse me, I meant that Middle-Eastern Terrorists are known to come into
> >the US via Canada. This was publicized on national news shows after 911.
> >Gosh, with this kind of story, if I were a terrorist, I would go through
> >Canada - why would I even take the chance on being taken in at US Customs
> >only to be deported and tortured? The fact that it has a HUGE unpatrolled
> >border with the US makes it a prime entry target. Whether or not you
> >believe it that is a matter of personal choice. I'm sure there's
> >documentation on it where it did happen as well your documentation below.
> >
> >- Matthew Small
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dharmesh Goel
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:49 AM
> > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> > Hi Mathew,
> >
> > I strongly disagree with
> >
> > "The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come
> > into the US via Canada."
> >
> > This is a case of if a lie is told over and over again, people will
> > start believing it. The last time I checked, borders are manned and
> > controlled by US Immigration and customs at points of entry.
> >
> > Here is a discussion on this:
> >
> ><http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_bucha
> nan.html>http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan.html
>
> >
> > Another article:
> >
> ><http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html>http://
> www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html
> >
> > Tons of discussion on this topic out there in cyberspace.
> >
> > Some excerpts
> > ------------------------
> > DISCLOSURE: I'm sure you remember this whole incident over the New Year
> > period, where there was this alert that there were five men in the United
> > States.
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Mm hmm.
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: And reports were that they had come from Canada, somehow
> > related to terrorism.
> >
> > BUCHANAN: And it was a hoax.
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: And it was a hoax.
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Right.
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: So, what do you make of that?
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Well it was a hoax but [laugh] they probably felt that
> > because it was from Canada it would be believed, is my guess.
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: Well is that fair?
> >
> > ------------------------
> > DISCLOSURE: -you've got a situation in this country where you had 19
> > hijackers coming through the front door, now where's the problem?
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Well it -Look the- Clearly the United States is the target.
> > And they come into our airports, they come through Canada, they come
> > through Mexico, so let's tighten-
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: Well they- who comes through Canada?
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Well- Look. We've already been over this, but-
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: Who comes through Canada though? Has there been an incident
> > with somebody who comes through-
> >
> > BUCHANAN: Well there are many terrorists as you know, so, [laugh] that
> > have been sitting there almost operating freely-
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: Well-
> >
> > BUCHANAN: -up in Canada.
> >
> > DISCLOSURE: Well so you say, but where's the terrorist incidents?
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Dharmesh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:38 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> > The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come
> > into the US via Canada. This is a suspicious situation, plain and
> > simple. I didn't agree with the fact that he was tortured or
> > deported. I said it was suspicious and I believe the right thing to do
> > is to question further. You don't have to give me one, the one taints the
> > other two. I don't like a lot of things going on with this kind of
> > interrogation, but they were right on the money in detaining him for
> > further questioning. Bigoted? How about realistic. Lots of people have
> > been "further questioned" for far less, including myself. I'm a young
> > white southern male.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Raymond Camden
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> > Wow, so you listed 3 facts:
> >
> > 1) A middle-easterner living in Canada.
> >
> > So, is Canada just a bunch of white guys?
> >
> > 2) Coming back from a Middle-Eastern country.
> >
> > So all Middle-Eastern countries are under suspicion now?
> >
> > 3) Known contact with a terrorist.
> >
> > Wasn't he a suspected, not proven terrorist? Wasn't the contact from
> > years ago? I can maybe give you this one, but the other two are simply
> > wrong. Bigoted at worst.
> >
> > -rc
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:40 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> > >
> > >
> > > A Middle-Easterner living in Canada, coming back from a
> > > Middle-Eastern country, known contact with Middle-Eastern
> > > terrorists. That's suspicious. I didn't say guilty, I said
> > > suspicious.
> > >
> > > - Matt Small
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Raymond Camden
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> > > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I don't agree with the torture and deportation... but I
> > > > stand by the fact that it's a very suspicious scene.
> > >
> > > Why? You said he was middle eastern flying from a islamic
> > > country. Is
> > > that something rare? Doesn't this happen thousands of times
> > > a day? Is it
> > > suspicious to fly home?
> > >
> > > -ray
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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