did on a visit to my parents. That's how come I remember that particular
crossing so well.
One thing my mother remarked to me was that the border guards were being
far more strict and careful than usual. I've wondered if they were looking
for someone or something ever since.
I'd also like to point out that after that there was at least 2 terrorist
rings broken up by Canadian security officials
(http://www.cnn.com/1999/US/12/24/border.arrest.01/index.html). Also the
perpetrator of the 1985 Air India bombing, in which almost 300 people died,
is currently on trial in Vancouver
(http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=bc_aipm20031104).
larry
At 11:54 AM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
>http://www.cnn.com/1999/US/12/17/border.arrest.03/
><http://www.cnn.com/1999/US/12/17/border.arrest.03/>
>
>
>Remember this one?
>
>Timothy Heald
>Web Portfolio Manager
>Overseas Security Advisory Council
>U.S. Department of State
>571.345.2319
>
>The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dharmesh Goel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:51 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
>Hi Mathew,
>
>I strongly disagree with
>
>"The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come into
>the US via Canada."
>
>This is a case of if a lie is told over and over again, people will start
>believing it. The last time I checked, borders are manned and controlled by
>US Immigration and customs at points of entry.
>
>Here is a discussion on this:
><http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan.>http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan.
>html
><http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/documents/030211_blamecanada_buchanan
>.html>
>
>Another article:
><http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html>http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html
><http://www.herald.ns.ca/stories/2003/01/19/fObserver172.raw.html>
>
>Tons of discussion on this topic out there in cyberspace.
>
>Some excerpts
>------------------------
>DISCLOSURE: I'm sure you remember this whole incident over the New Year
>period, where there was this alert that there were five men in the United
>States.
>
>BUCHANAN: Mm hmm.
>
>DISCLOSURE: And reports were that they had come from Canada, somehow related
>to terrorism.
>
>BUCHANAN: And it was a hoax.
>
>DISCLOSURE: And it was a hoax.
>
>BUCHANAN: Right.
>
>DISCLOSURE: So, what do you make of that?
>
>BUCHANAN: Well it was a hoax but [laugh] they probably felt that because it
>was from Canada it would be believed, is my guess.
>
>DISCLOSURE: Well is that fair?
>
>------------------------
>DISCLOSURE: -you've got a situation in this country where you had 19
>hijackers coming through the front door, now where's the problem?
>
>BUCHANAN: Well it -Look the- Clearly the United States is the target. And
>they come into our airports, they come through Canada, they come through
>Mexico, so let's tighten-
>
>DISCLOSURE: Well they- who comes through Canada?
>
>BUCHANAN: Well- Look. We've already been over this, but-
>
>DISCLOSURE: Who comes through Canada though? Has there been an incident with
>somebody who comes through-
>
>BUCHANAN: Well there are many terrorists as you know, so, [laugh] that have
>been sitting there almost operating freely-
>
>DISCLOSURE: Well-
>
>BUCHANAN: -up in Canada.
>
>DISCLOSURE: Well so you say, but where's the terrorist incidents?
>---------------------
>
>Dharmesh
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:38 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
>The publicized fact that is that Middle-Easterners are known to come into
>the US via Canada. This is a suspicious situation, plain and simple. I
>didn't agree with the fact that he was tortured or deported. I said it was
>suspicious and I believe the right thing to do is to question further. You
>don't have to give me one, the one taints the other two. I don't like a lot
>of things going on with this kind of interrogation, but they were right on
>the money in detaining him for further questioning. Bigoted? How about
>realistic. Lots of people have been "further questioned" for far less,
>including myself. I'm a young white southern male.
>
>- Matt Small
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Raymond Camden
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:37 PM
> Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
>
> Wow, so you listed 3 facts:
>
> 1) A middle-easterner living in Canada.
>
> So, is Canada just a bunch of white guys?
>
> 2) Coming back from a Middle-Eastern country.
>
> So all Middle-Eastern countries are under suspicion now?
>
> 3) Known contact with a terrorist.
>
> Wasn't he a suspected, not proven terrorist? Wasn't the contact from
> years ago? I can maybe give you this one, but the other two are simply
> wrong. Bigoted at worst.
>
> -rc
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 11:40 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> >
> > A Middle-Easterner living in Canada, coming back from a
> > Middle-Eastern country, known contact with Middle-Eastern
> > terrorists. That's suspicious. I didn't say guilty, I said
> > suspicious.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Raymond Camden
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: The Damasus Holiday Inn...
> >
> >
> > > I don't agree with the torture and deportation... but I
> > > stand by the fact that it's a very suspicious scene.
> >
> > Why? You said he was middle eastern flying from a islamic
> > country. Is
> > that something rare? Doesn't this happen thousands of times
> > a day? Is it
> > suspicious to fly home?
> >
> > -ray
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _____
>
>
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