Geez man. I worked with IE5/Mac as my primary browser for years. Had no
problems developing cross-compatible sites.

Of course, we avoided serious _javascript_, Flash, use of iframes, CSS, etc.
Do that, and it works great!

-Kevin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Doom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: AAARRRGGGGHHH! Stupid IE!!!!

> Ah, I'm not offended.  Just surprised is all.  I was kidding about
> starting a browser war.  I don't really care what people use, just so
> long as they don't complain about how the layout doesn't work in Lynx
> 1.0 :-)
>
> AFA IE/Mac goes, in all fairness, I'm looking at it from the point of
> view of all the @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@# customization I had to do to get sites to work
> properly with IE/Mac and everything else.  Plus, we have a site that
> (against my better judgement) uses an iframe floating over a section of
> Flash.  This does not, cannot, will not work in IE/Mac because you can't
> float anything over a plugin becuase of the z-index bug.
>
> As a consumer browser, it may be fly as can be, but I'd never notice
> because I'm too busy arguing with the internals.
>
> I thought Opera was pretty sweet back when I first tried it, but that
> was before an ad-supported version was released, and I was a poor
> college student at the time and didn't have the moolah to shell out for
it.
>
> --benD
>
> Jim Campbell wrote:
>
> > Really?  I really liked IE on the Mac.  I don't use it now - Mozilla and
> > Opera are too far advanced to consider it, but for OS 9, I don't think
> > anything for the Mac was as good.  I didn't know about the z-index thing
> > though... Hmmm.
> >
> > At risk of offending you again :)  Opera is pretty great these days.
> >
> > - Jim
> >
> > Ben Doom wrote:
> >
> >  >Begin Browser War:
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >>I love the irony of Microsoft's Mac software being almost universally
> >  >>superior to their Windows software.  I prefer Office X and its suite
of
> >  >>applications far more than Office XP/2003, and IE for Mac was
probably
> >  >>the best browser out for OS 9 and OS X for a while (possibly the best
> >  >>browser, *period*), although Opera is probably the king in that
regard
> >  >>now.  Well, that or Mozilla.
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >
> >  >IE for Mac the best browser?  What the hell are you talking about?
Its
> >  >DOM is even less standardized than IE/Win.  Its plugin structure
forces
> >  >any plugin to have an "infinite" z-index.  Its _javascript_ support is
> >  >even odder than IE/Win.
> >  >
> >  >I really, really don't care for this browser.  But maybe you noticed
that.
> >  >
> >  >Safari has its own set of problems, especially for developers, but is
a
> >  >pretty good browser for the average end-user.  For my money (or lack
> >  >thereof) Mozilla is king.  Though, admittedly, I've not used Opera
since
> >  >way back when.
> >  >
> >  >--benD
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
>
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