Wow, I have to try that :)

Also, the drop downs on esca.com are falling over a standard image - the
Flash is off to the left and doesn't come in contact with the menu
items, even when I shrink the screen.

- Jim

William H Bowen wrote:

>naaahh. to solve that you just need to put the following in your
><object> tag
>
><param name="WMode" value="Transparent">
>
>that's the fix.
>
>you can see it in action here: http://www.esca.com
>
>get syntax viewing source and scrolling down.
>
>HTH
>will
>
>PS: now that I think about it, it could have been solved in IE6 I just
>didn't notice 'cause it was fixed with the above...maybe I'll test...
>
>Jim Campbell wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I've seen that z-index issue in IE on Windows as well - a Flash object
>>would always ride on top of a DHTML drop-down menu, no matter how much
>>we fiddled with it.  This was with IE 5.5 though.  Possibly resolved at
>>this point?
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Ben Doom wrote:
>>
>>   
>>
>>>Ah, I'm not offended.  Just surprised is all.  I was kidding about
>>>starting a browser war.  I don't really care what people use, just so
>>>long as they don't complain about how the layout doesn't work in Lynx
>>>1.0 :-)
>>>
>>>AFA IE/Mac goes, in all fairness, I'm looking at it from the point of
>>>view of all the @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@# customization I had to do to get sites to work
>>>properly with IE/Mac and everything else.  Plus, we have a site that
>>>(against my better judgement) uses an iframe floating over a section of
>>>Flash.  This does not, cannot, will not work in IE/Mac because you can't
>>>float anything over a plugin becuase of the z-index bug.
>>>
>>>As a consumer browser, it may be fly as can be, but I'd never notice
>>>because I'm too busy arguing with the internals.
>>>
>>>I thought Opera was pretty sweet back when I first tried it, but that
>>>was before an ad-supported version was released, and I was a poor
>>>college student at the time and didn't have the moolah to shell out
>>>      
>>>
>>for it.
>>   
>>
>>>--benD
>>>
>>>Jim Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Really?  I really liked IE on the Mac.  I don't use it now - Mozilla and
>>>>Opera are too far advanced to consider it, but for OS 9, I don't think
>>>>anything for the Mac was as good.  I didn't know about the z-index thing
>>>>though... Hmmm.
>>>>
>>>>At risk of offending you again :)  Opera is pretty great these days.
>>>>
>>>>- Jim
>>>>
>>>>Ben Doom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Begin Browser War:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>>>I love the irony of Microsoft's Mac software being almost universally
>>>>>>superior to their Windows software.  I prefer Office X and its
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>suite of
>>   
>>
>>>>>>applications far more than Office XP/2003, and IE for Mac was
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>probably
>>   
>>
>>>>>>the best browser out for OS 9 and OS X for a while (possibly the best
>>>>>>browser, *period*), although Opera is probably the king in that
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>regard
>>   
>>
>>>>>>now.  Well, that or Mozilla.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>IE for Mac the best browser?  What the hell are you talking
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>about?  Its
>>   
>>
>>>>>DOM is even less standardized than IE/Win.  Its plugin structure
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>forces
>>   
>>
>>>>>any plugin to have an "infinite" z-index.  Its _javascript_ support is
>>>>>even odder than IE/Win.
>>>>>
>>>>>I really, really don't care for this browser.  But maybe you
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>noticed that.
>>   
>>
>>>>>Safari has its own set of problems, especially for developers, but
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>is a
>>   
>>
>>>>>pretty good browser for the average end-user.  For my money (or lack
>>>>>thereof) Mozilla is king.  Though, admittedly, I've not used Opera
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>since
>>   
>>
>>>>>way back when.
>>>>>
>>>>>--benD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>
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