:)
Nope - it still clouds the mind, just in a different way.
Many Buddhists follow the spirit of that precept rather than the letter,
even some of the ordained people I know enjoy an occasional drink, and I
don't think many of them could survive without tea or coffee.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 18 November 2003 16:33
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Karma was RE: Email
So, if we're supposed to get bad karma from intoxicants that cloud the
mind, do we get good karma from caffeiene?
heeheehee....
--benD
Wayne Putterill wrote:
> The standards in Buddhism are the five precepts:
>
> 1. Not killing or causing harm to other living beings
> 2. Not taking the not-given
> 3. Avoiding sexual misconduct
> 4. Avoiding false speech
> 5. Abstaining from intoxicants that cloud the mind
>
> Each of the precepts also has a positive side which produce good
karma:
>
> 1. Love
> 2. Generosity
> 3. Contentment
> 4. Truthfulness
> 5. Mindfulness
>
> I can't comment on other eastern religions take on the issue, but I
> believe they have basically the same principles.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 18 November 2003 15:10
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Karma was RE: Email
>
> Well i was just being sarcastic and using the taking of jobs as an
> example off the cuff.
>
> So if karma is based off what you feel is right and wrong (Cliche
> warning) does that mean Saddam or Hitler have excellent karma because
> i'm sure they thought they were doing right. I would think karma has
to
> be based off some standard and i would also think its not social
> standards or norms because so many times social standards and norms
are
> repressive and not a true reflection of an actions good or bad rating.
>
> Maybe karma comes down to the golden rule? Don't do things you
wouldn't
> want others to do unto you? AHh such deep thoughts time to have some
> cinnamon tea now
>
> --
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> eDiets.com, Inc.
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 9:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Karma was RE: Email
>
> What follows is mostly speculation:
>
> Karma is based more on what you feel is right or wrong, rather than
any
> hard and fast rules.
>
> For example, you mentioned hurting the jobs of others by providing
cheap
>
> labor. My question is, isn't that what the US has been promoting for
> years? Haven't we been pushing the capitalist model on the world
since
> we decided communism == bad? So what right have we to get upset about
> them taking jobs that people in the US want more money to take?
>
> More to the point, if you were hungry and unemployed, would you worry
> about taking someone else's job by doing it cheaper? Or would you
worry
>
> about feeding your kids?
>
> --benD
>
> Bill Wheatley wrote:
>
> > So what hurts and helps karma? I mean if they are so worried about
> karma
> > why wouldn't care about hurting the jobs of others by undercutting
it
> > with cheaper labor? I'm just thinking abstractly I suppose. Because
> you
> > can get to a point where you could say its bad karma to breath
because
> > you are depriving the earth of air. Or by walking you're hurting
earth
> > by killing things that are so tiny you can't even see them with the
> > naked eye. Who is to say where the line is drawn in regards to what
is
> > positive karma and what is negative karma? Is there reading
material
> > with a +/- chart on Karma?
> >
> >
> > Abstractly Yours
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > eDiets.com, Inc.
> > (OTCBB: EDET)
> > 3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
> > Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
> > V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
> > F: (954) 360-9095
> > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:58 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Email
> >
> > That's patently unfair to Indians. I mean, people so careful of
their
> > karma are *not* going to work for Awful On Line.
> >
> > --benD
> >
> > Dana Tierney wrote:
> >
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> and
> > is in
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> > >
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> > >
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> part
> > of
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contact
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> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Haggerty, Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 2:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Email
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > | I set up a site that is capable of sending automatic
mailings
> to
> > > > | registered users, and we are getting a lot of bouncebacks
from
> > AOL. The
> > > > | specific reason provided is that the server has been
> repeatedly
> > used to
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need
> to
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> > > > | the problem.
> > > > |
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are
> on
> > a
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> > > > |
> > > > | M
> > > > |
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> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > > |
> > > >
> > >
> > _____
> >
> >
> _____
>
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