Marcus Aurelleus, and Constanine, the various Roman philosophers, in fact
the entire Epicurian and Stoic schools of philosophy.
Lets see there's the Borgia Family - the father was a pope and either he,
or his son got his daughter pregant.
Chattel Slavery in the US until 135 years ago.
Concentration camps and gas chambers.
Rwanda and Brundi. Cluster bombs, nuclear weapons, biowarfare agents.
I could go on and on.
Are we any better or worse?
We ought to know better.
As for where their society is today, it evolved into ours in a way. The
Roman Empire lasted until 1453, and the last Roman Dynasty lasted until
1917 with the execution of the Romanoffs.
Our society is based on their philosophy, code of laws, architecture, art,
sciences etc.
In other words we are the descendents of the Greeks and Romans.
Also if you look at the history of the Roman Empire, it suffered the
greatest declines when it went through a puritanical phase. When the Roman
Empire was going through a hedonistic period, it typically was a time of
economic, political and cultural expansion.
larry
At 12:53 PM 11/19/2003, you wrote:
>"Something to consider. The ancient Greeks thought of women as mere
>receptacles for procreation, and the highest form of love, that of a
>12 to 15 year old boy.
>
>While I find that personally repugnant, does that make the ideas they
>advanced invalid?
>
>Similarly does that make their contributions to our civilization any less?
>
>larry"
>
>- Actually, ask yourself where their society is today. It declined
>because they were immoral heathens: Nero, Caligula, etc. ;-)
>
>- Matt Small
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry C. Lyons
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Re:CNN Breaking News
>
> >
> >Do I worry that since it is said that sexual orientation is
> >hereditary, that the more gays breed the more gays will be born?
> >Hmm. I'll have to back burner that one. I don't think so.
> >
> >Do I think that "catering" to gays will wreck our society? No. There
> >have been gays in every society I have read about. The smarter
> >societies made use of these differences.
> >
> >Certainly have some deep thinking to do.
> >
> >Yikes.
> >Jerry Johnson
>
> Something to consider. The ancient Greeks thought of women as mere
> receptacles for procreation, and the highest form of love, that of a
> 12 to 15 year old boy.
>
> While I find that personally repugnant, does that make the ideas they
> advanced invalid?
>
> Similarly does that make their contributions to our civilization any less?
>
> larry
>
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