REG:
All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education,
wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and
public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?
XERXES:
Brought peace.
REG:
Oh. Peace? Shut up!
:-P
will
Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> Those are Romans. You could also point to Scipio Africanus, The Emperors
> Marcus Aurelleus, and Constanine, the various Roman philosophers, in fact
> the entire Epicurian and Stoic schools of philosophy.
>
> Lets see there's the Borgia Family - the father was a pope and either he,
> or his son got his daughter pregant.
>
> Chattel Slavery in the US until 135 years ago.
>
> Concentration camps and gas chambers.
>
> Rwanda and Brundi. Cluster bombs, nuclear weapons, biowarfare agents.
>
> I could go on and on.
>
> Are we any better or worse?
>
> We ought to know better.
>
> As for where their society is today, it evolved into ours in a way. The
> Roman Empire lasted until 1453, and the last Roman Dynasty lasted until
> 1917 with the execution of the Romanoffs.
>
> Our society is based on their philosophy, code of laws, architecture,
> art,
> sciences etc.
>
> In other words we are the descendents of the Greeks and Romans.
>
> Also if you look at the history of the Roman Empire, it suffered the
> greatest declines when it went through a puritanical phase. When the
> Roman
> Empire was going through a hedonistic period, it typically was a time of
> economic, political and cultural expansion.
>
> larry
>
> At 12:53 PM 11/19/2003, you wrote:
> >"Something to consider. The ancient Greeks thought of women as mere
> >receptacles for procreation, and the highest form of love, that of a
> >12 to 15 year old boy.
> >
> >While I find that personally repugnant, does that make the ideas they
> >advanced invalid?
> >
> >Similarly does that make their contributions to our civilization any
> less?
> >
> >larry"
> >
> >- Actually, ask yourself where their society is today. It declined
> >because they were immoral heathens: Nero, Caligula, etc. ;-)
> >
> >- Matt Small
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry C. Lyons
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 6:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re:CNN Breaking News
> >
> > >
> > >Do I worry that since it is said that sexual orientation is
> > >hereditary, that the more gays breed the more gays will be born?
> > >Hmm. I'll have to back burner that one. I don't think so.
> > >
> > >Do I think that "catering" to gays will wreck our society? No. There
> > >have been gays in every society I have read about. The smarter
> > >societies made use of these differences.
> > >
> > >Certainly have some deep thinking to do.
> > >
> > >Yikes.
> > >Jerry Johnson
> >
> > Something to consider. The ancient Greeks thought of women as mere
> > receptacles for procreation, and the highest form of love, that of a
> > 12 to 15 year old boy.
> >
> > While I find that personally repugnant, does that make the ideas they
> > advanced invalid?
> >
> > Similarly does that make their contributions to our civilization
> any less?
> >
> > larry
> >
> >----------
> >[
>
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