"the economy will stay in the toilet"

I'm sorry but where do you get your news?  Things have really picked up.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:42 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: Bush resume

  LOL ohhh you think he's the best of everyone running for president. My
  bad, I thought we were talking about bizarro land or something.
  If shrub ran against the Brady bunch he might be the most qualified but
  I do not think he is the person for the job. Though I'm hoping the
  economy will stay in the toilet for another 8-12 months just so we can
  get this knuckle head out of office.

  --
  Bill Wheatley
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:23 PM
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: Bush resume

  You know, I hadn't applied that name to the democratic candidates, but
  if you
  think it is appropriate, who am I to argue.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:11 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: RE: Bush resume

    Hrm best of what bunch?? Maybe the best of the brady bunch but thats
    just a slim win anyway

    --
    Bill Wheatley
    Senior Database Developer
    eDiets.com, Inc.
    (OTCBB: EDET)
    3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
    Deerfield Beach, FL  33442
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:45 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: RE: Bush resume

    LOL.  And probably not too far off.

    I clearly don't think that Bush is a great president, he just happens
  to
    be
    the best of the bunch.
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:25 AM
      To: CF-Community
      Subject: Re: Bush resume

      I think "thinking big" is a large part of Bush's popularity.  I
  don't
      think he has a clue about how to manage the economy (or give the
      impression of managing the economy), but there were a _lot_ of big,
    bold
      "big picture" initiatives that were pushed through after the
  attacks.
      War On Terrorism! (Swoosh!), Department of Homeland Defense!
    (Shazam!),
      PATRIOT Act! (Kerpow!), Operation Enduring Freedom! (Kaboom!).  They
      were impressive feats of bureaucratic manipulation, but the economic
      policies seem wan and uncreative.

      Here's a check for $300 - have fun.  I'm cutting taxes, sort of.
  Oh,
      uh, here's another check for $400, go get yourself something nice,
  ok?

      It seems to me that the "Economy" as a whole is sort of rooted in
      large-group psychology.  While I don't believe the president himself
    has
      that much *actual* control over the economy, I think his and his
      administration's attitude towards it can play into the general
      perception of how things are going and make people more optimistic
    about
      things.

      - Jim

      Andy Ousterhout wrote:

      >And that is news to who?
      >
      >Presidents need to think big.  Short term fixes create a pendulum
    effect,
    long
      >term changes have long term impacts.
      >  -----Original Message-----
      >  From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      >  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:49 AM
      >  To: CF-Community
      >  Subject: Re: Bush resume
      >
      >
      >  Nobel winners attack Bush economics
      >
      >  "Regardless of how one views the specifics of the Bush plan,
  there
    is
    wide
      >agreement that its purpose is a permanent change in the tax
  structure
    and
    not
      >the creation of jobs and growth in the near term," the economists
    said in a
      >statement published by the Economic Policy Institute.
      >
      >  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2735269.stm
      >
      >  ----- Original Message -----
      >  From: Andy Ousterhout
      >  To: CF-Community
      >  Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:05 AM
      >  Subject: RE: Bush resume
      >
      >  I guess all the economists are wrong too.  If it were not for
  that
    damn
      >Bush:
      >      1   All of the world's ills would be cured.
      >      2.  All of the excesses of the 90's would have retroactively
      >disappeared,
      >      3.  All of those BAD business people who quickly realized
  that
    BUSH
    was
      >  lax on businesses would not have been able to implement evil
    business
      >  practices SO quickly that it appeared that they had been
  following
    them
      >since
      >  the 90's
      >      4.  Business would be ignoring the lower cost of labor in
  other
      >countries
      >  and would have continued to hire people who provided diminishing
    value
    for
      >the
      >  love of country(sorry, God's out)
      >      5.  All of those foreigners who think that we suck would not
  be
    risking
      >  life and limb to sneak into OUR country voluntarily work for, god
    forbid,
      >  below minimum wage, and send huge amounts of their paltry
  earnings
    back
    to
      >  their highly advantaged family who stayed home to live a life of
    luxury.
      >      6.  Yale's image would have remained untarnished
      >
      >  My bad.
      >
      >  -----Original Message-----
      >  From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      >  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:39 PM
      >  To: CF-Community
      >  Subject: Re: Bush resume
      >
      >    Actually the statement that the economy is in a turnaround, is
    more pie
    in
      >  the
      >    sky.  Jobs continue to be lost, prosecutions of those involved
  in
    business
      >    fraud, and securities scams are still running at a less than
    enthusiastic
      >  rate.
      >    Our borders are still insecure.  Non-Mexican illegal immigrants
    are
    still
      >    released into the streets after capture by the INS.  His energy
    and oil
      >  patch
      >    friends are still not being called to account for their
    mis-deeds. Our
      >    reputation internationally has sunk to a historic low.  But I
  do
    have
    to
      >  credit
      >    him for this, he still has a fanatic following, and the big
  bucks
      >
      >

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