Market to the US and send jobs overseas. Creates a diminishing market, right?
National debt - borrowing against the future has killed economic growth several
times in the past, and will again. We are facing record setting debt and
deficits.
Hype of economic turn-around when the current gains are only seasonal hiring
peaks which will disappear after the holidays.
Inclusion of defense spending into the overall economic indicators is a false
positive.
Extending the duty tours of the military reserves creates jobs, right, even if
they are only temporary until the reservists return to their civilian jobs.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Bush resume
| There are myriad reasons to toss him out on his ass next year aside from
| the economy. I'd like to see a strong recovery very soon, since I'm
| tired of having so many friends out of work and seeing my friends and
| parts of my extended family struggling through this morass.
|
| - Jim
|
| Bill Wheatley wrote:
|
| >LOL ohhh you think he's the best of everyone running for president. My
| >bad, I thought we were talking about bizarro land or something.
| >If shrub ran against the Brady bunch he might be the most qualified but
| >I do not think he is the person for the job. Though I'm hoping the
| >economy will stay in the toilet for another 8-12 months just so we can
| >get this knuckle head out of office.
| >
| >
| >--
| >Bill Wheatley
| >Senior Database Developer
| >eDiets.com, Inc.
| >(OTCBB: EDET)
| >3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
| >Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
| >V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
| >F: (954) 360-9095
| >E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| >W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
| >
| >
| >
| >-----Original Message-----
| >From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| >Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 1:23 PM
| >To: CF-Community
| >Subject: RE: Bush resume
| >
| >
| >You know, I hadn't applied that name to the democratic candidates, but
| >if you
| >think it is appropriate, who am I to argue.
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:11 PM
| > To: CF-Community
| > Subject: RE: Bush resume
| >
| > Hrm best of what bunch?? Maybe the best of the brady bunch but thats
| > just a slim win anyway
| >
| > --
| > Bill Wheatley
| > Senior Database Developer
| > eDiets.com, Inc.
| > (OTCBB: EDET)
| > 3801 W. Hillsboro Blvd.
| > Deerfield Beach, FL 33442
| > V: (954) 360-9022 ext. 159
| > F: (954) 360-9095
| > E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > W: <http://www.ediets.com/> www.ediets.com
| >
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Andy Ousterhout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:45 PM
| > To: CF-Community
| > Subject: RE: Bush resume
| >
| > LOL. And probably not too far off.
| >
| > I clearly don't think that Bush is a great president, he just happens
| >to
| > be
| > the best of the bunch.
| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:25 AM
| > To: CF-Community
| > Subject: Re: Bush resume
| >
| > I think "thinking big" is a large part of Bush's popularity. I
| >don't
| > think he has a clue about how to manage the economy (or give the
| > impression of managing the economy), but there were a _lot_ of big,
| > bold
| > "big picture" initiatives that were pushed through after the
| >attacks.
| > War On Terrorism! (Swoosh!), Department of Homeland Defense!
| > (Shazam!),
| > PATRIOT Act! (Kerpow!), Operation Enduring Freedom! (Kaboom!). They
| > were impressive feats of bureaucratic manipulation, but the economic
| > policies seem wan and uncreative.
| >
| > Here's a check for $300 - have fun. I'm cutting taxes, sort of.
| >Oh,
| > uh, here's another check for $400, go get yourself something nice,
| >ok?
| >
| > It seems to me that the "Economy" as a whole is sort of rooted in
| > large-group psychology. While I don't believe the president himself
| > has
| > that much *actual* control over the economy, I think his and his
| > administration's attitude towards it can play into the general
| > perception of how things are going and make people more optimistic
| > about
| > things.
| >
| > - Jim
| >
| > Andy Ousterhout wrote:
| >
| > >And that is news to who?
| > >
| > >Presidents need to think big. Short term fixes create a pendulum
| > effect,
| > long
| > >term changes have long term impacts.
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:49 AM
| > > To: CF-Community
| > > Subject: Re: Bush resume
| > >
| > >
| > > Nobel winners attack Bush economics
| > >
| > > "Regardless of how one views the specifics of the Bush plan,
| >there
| > is
| > wide
| > >agreement that its purpose is a permanent change in the tax
| >structure
| > and
| > not
| > >the creation of jobs and growth in the near term," the economists
| > said in a
| > >statement published by the Economic Policy Institute.
| > >
| > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2735269.stm
| > >
| > > ----- Original Message -----
| > > From: Andy Ousterhout
| > > To: CF-Community
| > > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:05 AM
| > > Subject: RE: Bush resume
| > >
| > > I guess all the economists are wrong too. If it were not for
| >that
| > damn
| > >Bush:
| > > 1 All of the world's ills would be cured.
| > > 2. All of the excesses of the 90's would have retroactively
| > >disappeared,
| > > 3. All of those BAD business people who quickly realized
| >that
| > BUSH
| > was
| > > lax on businesses would not have been able to implement evil
| > business
| > > practices SO quickly that it appeared that they had been
| >following
| > them
| > >since
| > > the 90's
| > > 4. Business would be ignoring the lower cost of labor in
| >other
| > >countries
| > > and would have continued to hire people who provided diminishing
| > value
| > for
| > >the
| > > love of country(sorry, God's out)
| > > 5. All of those foreigners who think that we suck would not
| >be
| > risking
| > > life and limb to sneak into OUR country voluntarily work for, god
| > forbid,
| > > below minimum wage, and send huge amounts of their paltry
| >earnings
| > back
| > to
| > > their highly advantaged family who stayed home to live a life of
| > luxury.
| > > 6. Yale's image would have remained untarnished
| > >
| > > My bad.
| > >
| > > -----Original Message-----
| > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > > Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 10:39 PM
| > > To: CF-Community
| > > Subject: Re: Bush resume
| > >
| > > Actually the statement that the economy is in a turnaround, is
| > more pie
| > in
| > > the
| > > sky. Jobs continue to be lost, prosecutions of those involved
| >in
| > business
| > > fraud, and securities scams are still running at a less than
| > enthusiastic
| > > rate.
| > > Our borders are still insecure. Non-Mexican illegal immigrants
| > are
| > still
| > > released into the streets after capture by the INS. His energy
| > and oil
| > > patch
| > > friends are still not being called to account for their
| > mis-deeds. Our
| > > reputation internationally has sunk to a historic low. But I
| >do
| > have
| > to
| > > credit
| > > him for this, he still has a fanatic following, and the big
| >bucks
| > >
| > >
| >
| > _____
| >
| >
| > _____
| >
| >
| >
|
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