-Ben Braver
>Are you talking about having bad high school names?
>
>Try on Matt SMALL.
>
>- Matt Small
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Campbell
> To: CF-Community
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a develope r?")
>
>
> Sez you.
>
> - Jim CAMPBELL
>
> Jim Davis wrote:
>
> >Oh. that's harsh.
> >
> >Bring back those nasty high-school memories.
> >
> >Jim Davis
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:11 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
> >develope r?")
> >
> >Well hey you should just be able to quit, what with all that Garfield
> >money
> >you should have lying around.
> >
> >Timothy Heald
> >Web Portfolio Manager
> >Overseas Security Advisory Council
> >U.S. Department of State
> >571.345.2319
> >
> >The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S.
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:12 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
> >developer?")
> >
> >I had a few conversations that just made me sick. First 10 seconds of
> >background:
> >
> >I'm in a fortune 500 company that was bought by a fortune 50 company two
> >years ago. We made heavy use of CF, the new company has standardized on
> >WebSphere and is pushing us in that direction with cattle prods. For
> >this reason we've been unable to upgrade CF past our current 4.5
> >version.
> >
> >The arguments against upgrading have ranged from ridiculous to sublimely
> >stupid. For example:
> >
> >1) We can't upgrade to MX because we have to focus on Java now.
> >
> >2) There is no money for CF because we're looking at WebSphere (remember
> >that WebSphere runs 10-20 times the cost of CF, without hardware).
> >
> >3) That's not the enterprise direction. We have to get our apps running
> >on WebSphere as soon as we can.
> >
> >So last week I sent out an explanatory mail. It explained that the
> >reasons I've heard may be applicable to CF 4.5, but not to MX. It
> >described how CFMX is not a server, but rather a J2EE certified
> >application. I was eloquent on the fact that upgrading to MX would
> >allow us to run our existing apps on WebSphere immediately - at a
> >tremendous cost savings over rebuilding from scratch. I explored to
> >option to do this and still commit all new development to JSP on the
> >same platform with full interoperability between CFML and JSP.
> >
> >As you might image I was completely ignored. Not one comment on the
> >substance of my message.
> >
> >I went to some of the management to ask if they'd seen it. I got
> >several responses:
> >
> >1) "ColdFusion is a rust-in-place technology here. We won't consider
> >it."
> >
> >2) "If you're not up to speed in WebSphere by midyear you won't have
> >value to the company."
> >
> >3) "I read it. We can't consider ColdFusion now: we have to focus on
> >Java."
> >
> >So, generally speaking, I'm depressed. I remember when technical
> >decisions were made by technical people.
> >
> >I'm going to stick it out as long as I can (and learn WebSphere)... but
> >I think I'll be looking for work soon.
> >
> >Jim Davis
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> >
> >
>
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