I have a friend whose name is A. Corps, he very nearly moved a few years
back but decided against it because of the address - cemetery road.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 November 2003 21:26
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
develope r?")

My sister's friend's name is "Anita Ho"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: November 26, 2003 2:13 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
develope
r?")

I new a woman whose friend, Lily Pine, married Richard Coffin.  She was
then "Lil' Pine-Coffin".

Jim Davis

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:58 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
develope r?")

Nope... I was in boot camp with a guy whose last name was VIRGIN.  I'm
not lying, that's the truth. He lasted all of a week.

- Matt Small
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Jim Campbell
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
develope r?")

  I had a girl in my class who was raised by very strict, orthodox
  religious parents.  Her name?  Dorcas.

  She wins.

  - Jim

  Matthew Small wrote:

  >Are you talking about having bad high school names?
  >
  >Try on Matt SMALL.
  >
  >- Matt Small
  >  ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Jim Campbell
  >  To: CF-Community
  >  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 3:18 PM
  >  Subject: Re: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
develope r?")
  >
  >
  >  Sez you.
  >
  >  - Jim CAMPBELL
  >
  >  Jim Davis wrote:
  >
  >  >Oh. that's harsh.
  >  >
  >  >Bring back those nasty high-school memories.
  >  >
  >  >Jim Davis
  >  >
  >  >-----Original Message-----
  >  >From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >  >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:11 PM
  >  >To: CF-Community
  >  >Subject: RE: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
  >  >develope r?")
  >  >
  >  >Well hey you should just be able to quit, what with all that
Garfield
  >  >money
  >  >you should have lying around.
  >  >
  >  >Timothy Heald
  >  >Web Portfolio Manager
  >  >Overseas Security Advisory Council
  >  >U.S. Department of State
  >  >571.345.2319
  >  >
  >  >The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of
the U.S.
  >  >Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).  Nor have
these
  >  >opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This
e-mail
  >  >is
  >  >unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
  >  >
  >  >-----Original Message-----
  >  >From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >  >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 2:12 PM
  >  >To: CF-Community
  >  >Subject: Crappy Day for ColdFusion (subtitle: "Anybody need a
  >  >developer?")
  >  >
  >  >I had a few conversations that just made me sick.  First 10
seconds of
  >  >background:
  >  >
  >  >I'm in a fortune 500 company that was bought by a fortune 50
company two
  >  >years ago.  We made heavy use of CF, the new company has
standardized on
  >  >WebSphere and is pushing us in that direction with cattle prods.
For
  >  >this reason we've been unable to upgrade CF past our current 4.5
  >  >version.
  >  >
  >  >The arguments against upgrading have ranged from ridiculous to
sublimely
  >  >stupid.  For example:
  >  >
  >  >1) We can't upgrade to MX because we have to focus on Java now.
  >  >
  >  >2) There is no money for CF because we're looking at WebSphere
(remember
  >  >that WebSphere runs 10-20 times the cost of CF, without hardware).
  >  >
  >  >3) That's not the enterprise direction.  We have to get our apps
running
  >  >on WebSphere as soon as we can.
  >  >
  >  >So last week I sent out an explanatory mail.  It explained that
the
  >  >reasons I've heard may be applicable to CF 4.5, but not to MX.  It
  >  >described how CFMX is not a server, but rather a J2EE certified
  >  >application.  I was eloquent on the fact that upgrading to MX
would
  >  >allow us to run our existing apps on WebSphere immediately - at a
  >  >tremendous cost savings over rebuilding from scratch.  I explored
to
  >  >option to do this and still commit all new development to JSP on
the
  >  >same platform with full interoperability between CFML and JSP.
  >  >
  >  >As you might image I was completely ignored.  Not one comment on
the
  >  >substance of my message.
  >  >
  >  >I went to some of the management to ask if they'd seen it.  I got
  >  >several responses:
  >  >
  >  >1) "ColdFusion is a rust-in-place technology here.  We won't
consider
  >  >it."
  >  >
  >  >2) "If you're not up to speed in WebSphere by midyear you won't
have
  >  >value to the company."
  >  >
  >  >3) "I read it.  We can't consider ColdFusion now: we have to focus
on
  >  >Java."
  >  >
  >  >So, generally speaking, I'm depressed.  I remember when technical
  >  >decisions were made by technical people.
  >  >
  >  >I'm going to stick it out as long as I can (and learn
WebSphere)... but
  >  >I think I'll be looking for work soon.
  >  >
  >  >Jim Davis
  >  >
  >  >  _____  
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >  _____  
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
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