No, it is not the purpose of this list (or any list, IMO). Not to be the first place to go when you hit a wall, at least. You learn by R'ingTFM. You learn by trial and error. You learn by googling.
Everyone on this list has their own priorities and responsibilities. Yes, we're here to answer questions when we can...but you have to understand that doing so takes time away from our own responsibilities. The question is, why should we invest our time helping you, when you're not willing to invest your time helping yourself?
If you don't understand arrays, you have no business working with arrays until you have taken the time to understand what they are and how they behave. You don't just start using a technology you don't understand, assuming that any questions you have will be answered by members of this (or any other) list.
Just to be real clear here...this is not a personal attack on you (in spite of what it may look like <g>). But if there's a serious perception on your part that the list is the first place to go when you hit a wall or encounter something you don't know how to do, you need to be told that it's not done that way. I've told you so, and others have told you so. Enough others have told you so that the message should have gotten through.
1) RTFM
2) STFW (and if you don't know what that one stands for, search the web) :)
3) Try again (trial and error)
4) Ask the question. And also know how to ask "right". Saying, "i'm trying to accomplish (insert task here), but it keeps puking" isn't going to get any (helpful) answers. Explain what you want to do. Explain how you're trying to accomplish it. Explain the problem that you're encountering. If it's an error, give the error message. If it's not an error, but unexpected results, explain what results you expected vs what results you got. In short, give as much information as you can that is pertinent to and explains the problem.
That's all for my rant. If I'm completely off base here, and others on the list don't mind being your first line of reference, well then I'm in the minority and the problem is mine. But even if that's the case (and i don't think it is...others can (and will) certainly let me know if i'm wrong), they're doing you a disservice by not forcing you to learn how to solve problems on your own.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bushy
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: Dropdown selection using <SELECT>
--Original Message Text---
From: Charlie Griefer
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:20:41 -0700
I don't think it's the fact that "a few tech questions" get asked here...but (and I'm sorry Bushy, but I'm going to be blunt) Bushy no longer seems to want to ask questions on cf-talk because it's been
suggested that he doesn't do any 'legwork' on his own to try and answer his questions, but rather relies on the list as his first resource to get his question(s) answered.
Is that not the purpose of this list?
I'd actually say this specific question would be more on topic for this list than cf-talk (since it's not a cf-related question)...but I think some of us resent the fact that questions are asked without the
person posing the question making any effort to solve the problem on his own.
----- Original Message -----
From: Erika L Walker-Arnold
To: CF-Community
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:07 AM
Subject: RE: Dropdown selection using <SELECT>
come on guys are you really going to get a shizzled up because we ask a
few tech questions here?
Mikey D, really, are you really going to be a ball buster for this?
All this time we've been behaving like good little children and now we
can't ask tech questions?
Sorry, but if I have any questions, this is the place I ask first.
Some of those people on CF-Talk are vultures with no sense of humour.
At least we can swing the tech question into the sex or politics arena
after it's been answered without getting slapped.
Erika
with no smile
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:19 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Dropdown selection using <SELECT>
Any chance you can move this into cf-talk. MD has already had a go about
this.
There is a distinct lack of sex or politics in your email.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bushy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 December 2003 14:08
To: CF-Community
Subject: OT: Dropdown selection using <SELECT>
Hi,
Is there a way to change the "arrow" on a select dropdown using CSS or
get
rid of the arrow box all together?
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