Stephen Decatur in Berlin Maryland and tell me why the schools are bad
there. There are no schools that I have ever seen that are perfect,
including private. Though a good school is able to educate thousands and
thousands of students a day. You have the troublemakers and other kids
who don't quite fit the mold which sometimes wind up going to a public
but more restricted school for kids who are not going to work in a
standard public school. But goto Stephen Decatur High School or Berlin
Middle school or Showell Elementary school and tell me its the school
fault for whatever happens with your kid.
Tell me the details..offlist if you want but I am really curious why all
these public schools seem to be bad to your kids. We all have to do our
own thing with kids and school but I'm seriously and honestly curious. I
don't mean to imply that you are a bad mom or anything so don't get mad
I just want to try and grasp how you have such bad luck with schools.
Either you are picking them badly or its not completely the schools
fault? There are kids who have special needs which don't always gel with
a public school. There are parents who always say its something else's
fault that makes a kid do what they do. I'm not saying either is
applicable to you I am just telling you the things that are running
through my head so I hope you can clarify.
--
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-----Original Message-----
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:07 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re:More Breaking News
the key word in that statement is quality, which is incompatible with a
government-run school in my opinion. I do agree with the part about
freely available. I would like to see a proliferation of charter
schools, personally.
Dana
>I don't care who runs it - I just said it should be FREELY available.
I
>also said that it would put a huge strain on the govt to privatize them
>all... that's because of the cost of offering anyone a quality
privatized
>education...which leads one to deduce that quality public schools is
the
>most realistic solution.
>
>~Simon
>
>Simon Horwith
>CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
>Member of Team Macromedia
>Macromedia Certified Instructor
>Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>Certified Flash MX Developer
>CFDJList - List Administrator
>http://www.how2cf.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07 January 2004 17:26
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re:More Breaking News
>
>
> Quality education should be available, but not run by government,
imho.
>Charter schools are a step in the right direction.
>
> Dana
>
> >Quality education should be freely available to everyone -
regardless of
> >socio-economic, ethnic, or other conditions. Do you really think
that
> >privatizing all schools would result in a larger percentage of the
>poplation
> >receiving a better education? That's interesting. I'd think it
makes
>more
> >sense to raise the quality of public schools. People who can afford
good
> >schools will go to them regardless of whether there are public
schools.
> >I've always felt that without putting a huge strain on the govt.,
having
> >nothing but privatized schools would result in a wider gap between
the
>well
> >educated and the poorly educated. Am I mistaken?
> >
> >~Simon
> >
> >Simon Horwith
> >CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
> >Member of Team Macromedia
> >Macromedia Certified Instructor
> >Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> >Certified Flash MX Developer
> >CFDJList - List Administrator
> >http://www.how2cf.com/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 07 January 2004 15:21
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> >
> >
> > I'm a contractor. I took a tech position at fair market value. I
do
>not
> > work FOR the government.
> >
> >
>
> > That being said, the department of state is the oldest department
in
>the
> > executive branch and almost the only one mentioned in the
constitution.
> > International affairs dictate the need for an organization that
>provides
> >for
> > communication, direct and indirect, with foreign countries.
>Additionally
> >I
> > provide security and intelligence analysis for U.S. Citizens
operating
> > abroad. Diplomatic Security is also the responsible law
enforcement
> > organization for visa and passport fraud (some of this has been
eaten
>up
> >by
> > DHS). The department of State is not the defense department or
the CIA
>or
> > the FBI. We are here for a constitutionally mandated reason.
> >
> >
> > Also don't get me wrong, I didn't say I am against all taxes. I
know
>we
> > need taxes for defense and law enforcement. Now roads, education
and
>other
> > services should all be handled at a state level, or as in the case
of
>the
> > postal service, privately. In many cases I think we should move
much
>more
> > aggressively towards toll roads supported by those that actually
use
>them,
> > education that PARENTS want for their children, and by lowering
the tax
> > burden n parents I can assure you that parents are not going to
choose
>the
> > garbage schools that we have now. Why not privatize all schools?
> >
> >
> > While I know that government research, mainly defense based, is in
>large
>
> > part responsible for great technological advances, this is not
>necessarily
> > always the case. Xerox, IBM and Microsoft, all private companies,
had
>a
> >lot
> > to do with getting us where we are today. A few generations ago
it
>would
> > have been Ford, GM and Dodge. Before that the railroads. Private
> >industry
> > is and always will be where the greatest and most powerful
innovation
> >comes
> > from.
> >
> >
> > Just so you know, I have my own ethical questions about where I
work
>and
> > what I do. I am a sellout, and I know it. I have kids, and I do
what
>I
> > need to do to give them the best life they can have. I didn't
need a
> >knife,
> > a gun or a stick to do it. I did it with my mind. I have worked
in
>the
> > private sector, actually starting to make something of a name for
>myself
> > before deciding to go the "professional" route.
> >
> >
> > Matt were you in a socialist position in the marines? No. It was
a
> >service
> > position. It's different and you know it is.
> >
> > --
> > Timothy Heald
> > Web Portfolio Manager
> > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > U.S. Department of State
> > 571.345.2319
> >
> > The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of
the
>U.S.
> > Department of State or any affiliated organization(s). Nor have
these
> > opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This
> >is
> > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:05 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: More Breaking News
> >
> > Whoa, now Tim. You work for the US Government - that's a job
provided
>for
> > society's benefit, making that a socialist position. Why should I
pay
>for
> > your job?
> >
> > The whole point is that we make some sacrifices in order to
acheive a
> >safer,
> > healthier society. Without taxes, we would have no roads, no
public
> > education, no postal service. Don't think that the private sector
>would
> > take over these things, because people just don't care that much
about
> >each
> > other on a personal basis to make society better without a huge
>personal
> > benefit.
> >
> > WIthout supporting the public, you and I would not be sitting here
in
>forn
> > of computers typing our views - we'd both be living in 1850.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Heald, Tim
> > To: CF-Community
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> >
> > Yeah god forbid we expect people to work harder. To study on
their
>own
> > time
> > to better themselves.
> >
> > People rise to the level of their abilities. Why is it my
burden to
> > support
> > them in a manner better than they can provide for themselves?
> >
> > --
> > Timothy Heald
> > Web Portfolio Manager
> > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > U.S. Department of State
> > 571.345.2319
> >
> > The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of
the
>U.S.
> > Department of State or any affiliated organization(s). Nor have
>these
> > opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations.
This
> > is
> > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:42 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: More Breaking News
> >
> > Exactly. The overall cost to the country of an even poorer poor
is
>worse
> > than the minor burden of an artificially manipulated standard of
>living.
> >
> > Besides increases in unemployment, theft, and violent crime,
there is
> >also
> > an associated decrease in access to base medical care which
leads to
> >more
> > sickness and the spread of communicable diseases. With a
shortened
>life
> > expectancy, people tend to try and have more children in order
for
>their
> > family to survive which puts an even greater burden on the
country.
> >
> > And besides, if people aren't making as much money who's going
to buy
> >all
> > the SUVs and HDTVs?
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Simon Horwith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> >
> > > but the idea behind Minimum wage is that it guarantees a
standard
>of
> > living
> > > that, though still at or near poverty level, does help to
guarantee
> > certain
> > > basic living standards. Even then, the minimum wage tends
not to
> > keep-up
> > > with the rise in inflation. That said, if a higher inflation
rate
>is
> > the
> > > price we must pay in order to guarantee legal workers a chance
at a
> > decent
> > > life, so be it.
> > >
> > > ~Simon
> > >
> > > Simon Horwith
> > > CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
> > > Member of Team Macromedia
> > > Macromedia Certified Instructor
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > > Certified Flash MX Developer
> > > CFDJList - List Administrator
> > > http://www.how2cf.com/ <http://www.how2cf.com/>
> > <http://www.how2cf.com/>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 07 January 2004 14:02
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> > >
> > >
> > > I think two main things have led us through inflation and
rising
> > costs.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. Coming off of the gold standard, thanx Nixon.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2. Minimum wage.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why in a free market economy should the government dictate
what
>one
> > side
> > > of
> > > an open trade should receive? If a person is willing to
work for
> >next
> > to
> > > nothing, should they not be able to? Also, to return to a
place
> >where
> > we
> > > can compete in a world economy as not just a service
provider,
>but
> >an
> > > industrial base, we need low pay low skill employees. As
long as
> >law
> > > requires us to meet and exceed basic standards we cannot do
so.
> > >
> > >
> > > The only other answer would be to severely penalize
countries and
> > > companies
> > > that don't meet the same requirements that we impose
internally.
> > >
> > >
> > > We start by exactly matching tariffs imposed by other
nations
> >against
> > our
> > > goods. Add additional tariffs to nations that don't afford
their
> > > employees
> > > the same minimum standing of living, add even more for
nations
>that
> > don't
> > > have basic human rights.
> > >
> > >
> > > It would be painful, maybe even start a war or two, but I
think
>it
> > would
> > > be
> > > worth it in the long run.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Timothy Heald
> > > Web Portfolio Manager
> > > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > U.S. Department of State
> > > 571.345.2319
> > >
> > > The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those
of
>the
> > U.S.
> > > Department of State or any affiliated organization(s). Nor
have
> >these
> > > opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations.
This
> > > is
> > > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:58 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> > >
> > > Hey - I like cutting my own lawn.
> > >
> > > I'm no economist, bu i wouldn't hold your breath on seeing
>minimum
> > wage
> > go
> > > away. Quite honestly, as far as I know it shouldn't go
away.
>The
> > goal
> > > shouldn't be to do away with it so that companies can hire
>Americans
> > for
> > > as
> > > cheap as they can get illegal labor, but to legalize all of
the
> >labor
> > to
> > > the
> > > extent that it all falls under minimum wage law. That way
>there'd
> >be
> > no
> > > benefit to hiring an illegal labourer as opposed to a legal
one
> > (they'd
> > > cost
> > > the same). Without minimum wage, what would protect the
>workforce -
> > > especially unskilled and manual labour? Of course, this
would
>most
> > likely
> > > result in even more work being outsourced to countries like
>India...
> > any
> > > work that can be, anyway.
> > >
> > > ~Simon
> > >
> > > Simon Horwith
> > > CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
> > > Member of Team Macromedia
> > > Macromedia Certified Instructor
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> > > Certified Flash MX Developer
> > > CFDJList - List Administrator
> > > http://www.how2cf.com/ <http://www.how2cf.com/>
> > <http://www.how2cf.com/>
> > <http://www.how2cf.com/>
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 07 January 2004 13:36
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: More Breaking News
> > >
> > > >We have 10.5 million illegal workers in the United States
>right
> > now,"
> > > said
> > > US Chamber of Commerce President Thomas Donohue.
> > >
> > > >"If they went home, we'd have to shut down the country."
> > >
> > > Hehe, or we'd just have to learn how to cut our own lawn
again.
> >:)
> > >
> > > Immigration is probably where I am furthest from
libertarian.
>At
> > this
> > > point
> > > I am almost isolationist. I would much rather see
work-fare
> > programs
> > > that
> > > get people off the rolls of welfare and into low and no
skill
> >jobs.
> > > Really
> > > if we could do away with the minimum wage and make it so
that
> >these
> > > companies that hire illegals because they can't afford
>Americans,
> > can
> > > again,
> > > it would be good for us all.
> > >
> > > Also isn't this going to encourage MORE illegal
immigration, as
> > people
> > > will
> > > see the "success stories" of people who got legal
recognition.
> >Plus
> > the
> > > way
> > > many state governments are set up, don't immigrants, even
> > non-citizens,
> > > then
> > > become eligible for social programs, like welfare and
medical
> > benefits?
> > >
> > > Yeah I can't see how any of this is a good idea.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Timothy Heald
> > > Web Portfolio Manager
> > > Overseas Security Advisory Council
> > > U.S. Department of State
> > > 571.345.2319
> > >
> > > The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect
those of
> >the
> > U.S.
> > > Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).
Nor
>have
> > these
> > > opinions been approved or sanctioned by these
organizations.
>This
> > > is
> > > unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Erika L Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:27 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: More Breaking News
> > >
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3375327.stm
> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3375327.stm>
> > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3375327.stm>
> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3375327.stm>
> > > <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3375327.stm>
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Erika
> > > _____
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > _____
> > _____
> >
>
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