had that trouble getting documents from either Winnipeg or the interior of
BC. What you have to prove is that you are you. For all that person knows
you may be using it to establish an id for something else. Canadian
passports, for instance, are pretty expensive in the alternative markets
from what I understand.
As for the places, its more of a mindset than anything. To give you an idea,
when I doing hypnosis research we found some interesting correlations
between geography and responsiveness to hypnosis. When we did assessments in
places that tended to be like the prairies, they tended to have higher
scores on those scales involving increased attention, and hypnosis than
those from more mountainous regions. In other words people form the prairies
tended to be able to have more intense attentional focus. Unfortunately I
never formalized the data enough to do a paper on it.
larry
-----Original Message-----
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:25 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re:bringing a note
You were born in Thunder Bay??? No wonder you emigrated. (runs) Actually, I
know little about the place except maybe we stopped for lunch there one of
those times we drove from Edmonton to Toronto. Isn't that where they have
the Sleeping Giant? We are talking dim childhood memories here. Ditto
Winnipeg. First anything in a whole lot of flat.
Still. You know what I am talking about... the incapacity to conceive of the
idea that anyone would *not* be flying to Mexico. The of course you have
reservations thing. And why in the hell do I have to prove anything is my
point. I was born there, I would like my birth certificate, I am willing to
pay for expedited service. It's all very Canadian, and I mean that in the
smug and parochial sense. Present company excluded, since it has shown an
awareness of a world outside of Ontario.....
Dana
>Y'know Dana, I was born in Thunderbay and grew up in Winnipeg.
>
>As for that crack about "big town", 600,000 + people is a lot more than
>what is in most places. Its also far more laid back and easy going than
>most US cities.
>
>So no more jabs at my home town eh.
>
>larry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:35 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re:bringing a note
>
>
>Hehehe. I was telling my mother about this and she goes, well it's for
>security, you know. The Americans. 9/11. I'm like security what? You
>need a birth certificate to get in the States now? Well no, she says.
>(Dana is
>speechless.) It's complicated, she said.
>
>As best I understand it, there is some sort of increased demand for
>birth certificates. And you have to get them from Thunder Bay. For
>those not familiar, Thunder Bay is a podunk town in northern Ontario on
>the north shore of Lake Superior. It's about 800 miles by road from the
>nearest big town, and that "big town" would be Winnipeg.... nuff said.
>Anyway despite the no doubt raging unemployment there they haven't
>hired enough to keep up with the demand. People have been bringing news
>stories to my attention. None of them explain why this is happening but
>they are estimating the wait at four to six months. There *is* a
>mechanism for expedited service, but apparently just wanting to go to
>Mexico is not enough -- you have to prove that you have to be there by
>a certain date. Sigh.
>
>Since I don't want to leave my car in El Paso I called the bus line in
>town that is used by a lot of Mexicans and asked them if I could make a
>reservation to go to Zacateca. The guy who answered the phone thought I
>was out of my mind. You just go to El Paso, honey, then you walk across
>the bridge or take a taxi.... and take a bus in Juarez, he explained. I
>know I know, I told him, and told him the tale of the people in Thunder
>Bay. You know how people act when they aren't quite sure if you are
>kidding? The upshot of it is that his bus line doesn't actually go into
>Mexico, nor does it make reservations. I wasn't planning on staying in
>the kind of hotel that has a web page... when I drive cross-country I
>usually look for decent local independents when I start to get tired.
>
>Works well, except I need a piece of paper from someone not me for
>these people in Thunder Bay. Really, I am just seething about this.
>It's so unnecessary, so... Canadian. Reminds me of getting a health
>card in Montreal. Pat forgot bureaucracy, which Canada got from the
French....
>
>My mother suggested that I register for one of the art classes in San
>Miguel de Allende. Like I really need another class this semester...I'm
>already registered for twenty four credit hours for crying out loud...
>
>::mumble::: I guess I better go do something.
>
>Dana
>
>
>>What kind of weird ass government regulation is that?
>>
>>Maybe I don't understand 'cause I'm not Canadian (but are/were and it
>>doesn't seem to be making sense to you either ;-), seems a rather poor
>>excuse for not wanting to do one's job.
>>
>>Are they afraid you'll love Mexico so much you're going to renounce
>>your
>>former-Canadian *and* US citizenships (IIRC)?
>>
>>What about elevation of the call, can you "take it to the manager"? Of
>>course I guess that sort of feeds into the Customer Service rant...
>>
>>Dana: Excuse me, I'd like a copy of my birth certificate, please.
>>Ontario Government Employee: No, you don't.
>>Dana: I most certainly do, I've even filled out this lovely paperwork,
>>in triplicate.
>>Ontario Government Employee: (takes paperwork and put it under desk) No
>>you haven't.
>>Dana: Oh, I just did.
>>Ontario Government Employee: No you didn't
>>Dana: I did.
>>Ontario Government Employee: It's lost. You'll have to fill it out again.
>>Dana: You just put it under your desk.
>>Ontario Government Employee: Well, what did you want it for anyway?
>>Dana: What?
>>Ontario Government Employee: Your birth certificate.
>>Dana: I'm going on vacation, I must have it to secure my passport.
>>Ontario Government Employee: Prove it.
>>Dana: Prove what?
>>Ontario Government Employee: That you're going on vacation.
>>Dana: What? I haven't got my passport yet.I'm not buying tickets until
>>I've obtained my passport.
>>Ontario Government Employee: There, you see?
>>Dana: No.
>>Ontario Government Employee: No tickets, no vacation. No vacation, no
>>passport required. Good day (closes window)
>>
>>wow...that sucks...
>>
>>--
>>will
>>
>>----
>>
>>William H Bowen
>>Marketing Communications Manager
>>AREVA T&D Corporation
>>
>>
>
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