As for the prairies... I spent five years in Edmonton, so I think I am qualified to comment. If that isn't Canadian prairies, nothing is :) You'd have to be better able to focus, or you'd fall asleep driving across Saskatchewan. (duck)
Anyhoo, need to go find a phone number for someone in Mexico I can explain my silly-ass problem to :)
Dana
>Actually from the sounds of it you just hit a stupid bureaucrat. I've never
>had that trouble getting documents from either Winnipeg or the interior of
>BC. What you have to prove is that you are you. For all that person knows
>you may be using it to establish an id for something else. Canadian
>passports, for instance, are pretty expensive in the alternative markets
>from what I understand.
>
>As for the places, its more of a mindset than anything. To give you an idea,
>when I doing hypnosis research we found some interesting correlations
>between geography and responsiveness to hypnosis. When we did assessments in
>places that tended to be like the prairies, they tended to have higher
>scores on those scales involving increased attention, and hypnosis than
>those from more mountainous regions. In other words people form the prairies
>tended to be able to have more intense attentional focus. Unfortunately I
>never formalized the data enough to do a paper on it.
>
>larry
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:25 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re:bringing a note
>
>
>You were born in Thunder Bay??? No wonder you emigrated. (runs) Actually, I
>know little about the place except maybe we stopped for lunch there one of
>those times we drove from Edmonton to Toronto. Isn't that where they have
>the Sleeping Giant? We are talking dim childhood memories here. Ditto
>Winnipeg. First anything in a whole lot of flat.
>
>Still. You know what I am talking about... the incapacity to conceive of the
>idea that anyone would *not* be flying to Mexico. The of course you have
>reservations thing. And why in the hell do I have to prove anything is my
>point. I was born there, I would like my birth certificate, I am willing to
>pay for expedited service. It's all very Canadian, and I mean that in the
>smug and parochial sense. Present company excluded, since it has shown an
>awareness of a world outside of Ontario.....
>
>Dana
>
>
>
>>Y'know Dana, I was born in Thunderbay and grew up in Winnipeg.
>>
>>As for that crack about "big town", 600,000 + people is a lot more than
>>what is in most places. Its also far more laid back and easy going than
>>most US cities.
>>
>>So no more jabs at my home town eh.
>>
>>larry
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:35 AM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re:bringing a note
>>
>>
>>Hehehe. I was telling my mother about this and she goes, well it's for
>>security, you know. The Americans. 9/11. I'm like security what? You
>>need a birth certificate to get in the States now? Well no, she says.
>>(Dana is
>>speechless.) It's complicated, she said.
>>
>>As best I understand it, there is some sort of increased demand for
>>birth certificates. And you have to get them from Thunder Bay. For
>>those not familiar, Thunder Bay is a podunk town in northern Ontario on
>>the north shore of Lake Superior. It's about 800 miles by road from the
>>nearest big town, and that "big town" would be Winnipeg.... nuff said.
>>Anyway despite the no doubt raging unemployment there they haven't
>>hired enough to keep up with the demand. People have been bringing news
>>stories to my attention. None of them explain why this is happening but
>>they are estimating the wait at four to six months. There *is* a
>>mechanism for expedited service, but apparently just wanting to go to
>>Mexico is not enough -- you have to prove that you have to be there by
>>a certain date. Sigh.
>>
>>Since I don't want to leave my car in El Paso I called the bus line in
>>town that is used by a lot of Mexicans and asked them if I could make a
>>reservation to go to Zacateca. The guy who answered the phone thought I
>>was out of my mind. You just go to El Paso, honey, then you walk across
>>the bridge or take a taxi.... and take a bus in Juarez, he explained. I
>>know I know, I told him, and told him the tale of the people in Thunder
>>Bay. You know how people act when they aren't quite sure if you are
>>kidding? The upshot of it is that his bus line doesn't actually go into
>>Mexico, nor does it make reservations. I wasn't planning on staying in
>>the kind of hotel that has a web page... when I drive cross-country I
>>usually look for decent local independents when I start to get tired.
>>
>>Works well, except I need a piece of paper from someone not me for
>>these people in Thunder Bay. Really, I am just seething about this.
>>It's so unnecessary, so... Canadian. Reminds me of getting a health
>>card in Montreal. Pat forgot bureaucracy, which Canada got from the
>French....
>>
>>My mother suggested that I register for one of the art classes in San
>>Miguel de Allende. Like I really need another class this semester...I'm
>>already registered for twenty four credit hours for crying out loud...
>>
>>::mumble::: I guess I better go do something.
>>
>>Dana
>>
>>
>>>What kind of weird ass government regulation is that?
>>>
>>>Maybe I don't understand 'cause I'm not Canadian (but are/were and it
>>>doesn't seem to be making sense to you either ;-), seems a rather poor
>>>excuse for not wanting to do one's job.
>>>
>>>Are they afraid you'll love Mexico so much you're going to renounce
>>>your
>>>former-Canadian *and* US citizenships (IIRC)?
>>>
>>>What about elevation of the call, can you "take it to the manager"? Of
>>>course I guess that sort of feeds into the Customer Service rant...
>>>
>>>Dana: Excuse me, I'd like a copy of my birth certificate, please.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: No, you don't.
>>>Dana: I most certainly do, I've even filled out this lovely paperwork,
>>>in triplicate.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: (takes paperwork and put it under desk) No
>>>you haven't.
>>>Dana: Oh, I just did.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: No you didn't
>>>Dana: I did.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: It's lost. You'll have to fill it out again.
>>>Dana: You just put it under your desk.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: Well, what did you want it for anyway?
>>>Dana: What?
>>>Ontario Government Employee: Your birth certificate.
>>>Dana: I'm going on vacation, I must have it to secure my passport.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: Prove it.
>>>Dana: Prove what?
>>>Ontario Government Employee: That you're going on vacation.
>>>Dana: What? I haven't got my passport yet.I'm not buying tickets until
>>>I've obtained my passport.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: There, you see?
>>>Dana: No.
>>>Ontario Government Employee: No tickets, no vacation. No vacation, no
>>>passport required. Good day (closes window)
>>>
>>>wow...that sucks...
>>>
>>>--
>>>will
>>>
>>>----
>>>
>>>William H Bowen
>>>Marketing Communications Manager
>>>AREVA T&D Corporation
>>>
>>>
>>
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