My wife was born in Montana.
Got form from web site, mailed in form and $$, got birth cert.
No questions, no explanations, no problem.
Same with me and City of San Francisco.
So why is Thunder Bay giving you such grief??
-Ben
> It's by-gosh official policy, sorry. I apparently created enough
> commotion at the consular level that someone from Thunder Bay called
> me.
>
> As for the prairies... I spent five years in Edmonton, so I think I am
> qualified to comment. If that isn't Canadian prairies, nothing is :)
> You'd have to be better able to focus, or you'd fall asleep driving
> across Saskatchewan. (duck)
>
> Anyhoo, need to go find a phone number for someone in Mexico I can
> explain my silly-ass problem to :)
>
> Dana
>
>
> >Actually from the sounds of it you just hit a stupid bureaucrat. I've
> never
> >had that trouble getting documents from either Winnipeg or the
> interior of
> >BC. What you have to prove is that you are you. For all that person
> knows
> >you may be using it to establish an id for something else. Canadian
> >passports, for instance, are pretty expensive in the alternative
> markets
> >from what I understand.
> >
> >As for the places, its more of a mindset than anything. To give you
> an idea,
> >when I doing hypnosis research we found some interesting
> correlations
> >between geography and responsiveness to hypnosis. When we did
> assessments in
> >places that tended to be like the prairies, they tended to have
> higher
> >scores on those scales involving increased attention, and hypnosis
> than
> >those from more mountainous regions. In other words people form the
> prairies
> >tended to be able to have more intense attentional focus.
> Unfortunately I
> >never formalized the data enough to do a paper on it.
> >
> >larry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:25 PM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Re:bringing a note
> >
> >
> >You were born in Thunder Bay??? No wonder you emigrated. (runs)
> Actually, I
> >know little about the place except maybe we stopped for lunch there
> one of
> >those times we drove from Edmonton to Toronto. Isn't that where they
> have
> >the Sleeping Giant? We are talking dim childhood memories here.
> Ditto
> >Winnipeg. First anything in a whole lot of flat.
> >
> >Still. You know what I am talking about... the incapacity to conceive
> of the
> >idea that anyone would *not* be flying to Mexico. The of course you
> have
> >reservations thing. And why in the hell do I have to prove anything
> is my
> >point. I was born there, I would like my birth certificate, I am
> willing to
> >pay for expedited service. It's all very Canadian, and I mean that
> in the
> >smug and parochial sense. Present company excluded, since it has
> shown an
> >awareness of a world outside of Ontario.....
> >
> >Dana
> >
> >
> >
> >>Y'know Dana, I was born in Thunderbay and grew up in Winnipeg.
> >>
> >>As for that crack about "big town", 600,000 + people is a lot more
> than
> >>what is in most places. Its also far more laid back and easy going
> than
> >>most US cities.
> >>
> >>So no more jabs at my home town eh.
> >>
> >>larry
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 10:35 AM
> >>To: CF-Community
> >>Subject: Re:bringing a note
> >>
> >>
> >>Hehehe. I was telling my mother about this and she goes, well it's
> for
> >>security, you know. The Americans. 9/11. I'm like security what? You
>
> >>need a birth certificate to get in the States now? Well no, she says.
>
> >>(Dana is
> >>speechless.) It's complicated, she said.
> >>
> >>As best I understand it, there is some sort of increased demand for
>
> >>birth certificates. And you have to get them from Thunder Bay. For
> >>those not familiar, Thunder Bay is a podunk town in northern Ontario
> on
> >>the north shore of Lake Superior. It's about 800 miles by road from
> the
> >>nearest big town, and that "big town" would be Winnipeg.... nuff
> said.
> >>Anyway despite the no doubt raging unemployment there they haven't
> >>hired enough to keep up with the demand. People have been bringing
> news
> >>stories to my attention. None of them explain why this is happening
> but
> >>they are estimating the wait at four to six months. There *is* a
> >>mechanism for expedited service, but apparently just wanting to go
> to
> >>Mexico is not enough -- you have to prove that you have to be there
> by
> >>a certain date. Sigh.
> >>
> >>Since I don't want to leave my car in El Paso I called the bus line
> in
> >>town that is used by a lot of Mexicans and asked them if I could
> make a
> >>reservation to go to Zacateca. The guy who answered the phone
> thought I
> >>was out of my mind. You just go to El Paso, honey, then you walk
> across
> >>the bridge or take a taxi.... and take a bus in Juarez, he explained.
> I
> >>know I know, I told him, and told him the tale of the people in
> Thunder
> >>Bay. You know how people act when they aren't quite sure if you are
>
> >>kidding? The upshot of it is that his bus line doesn't actually go
> into
> >>Mexico, nor does it make reservations. I wasn't planning on staying
> in
> >>the kind of hotel that has a web page... when I drive cross-country
> I
> >>usually look for decent local independents when I start to get tired.
>
> >>
> >>Works well, except I need a piece of paper from someone not me for
> >>these people in Thunder Bay. Really, I am just seething about this.
>
> >>It's so unnecessary, so... Canadian. Reminds me of getting a health
>
> >>card in Montreal. Pat forgot bureaucracy, which Canada got from the
> >French....
> >>
> >>My mother suggested that I register for one of the art classes in
> San
> >>Miguel de Allende. Like I really need another class this semester...
> I'm
> >>already registered for twenty four credit hours for crying out loud...
>
> >>
> >>::mumble::: I guess I better go do something.
> >>
> >>Dana
> >>
> >>
> >>>What kind of weird ass government regulation is that?
> >>>
> >>>Maybe I don't understand 'cause I'm not Canadian (but are/were and
> it
> >>>doesn't seem to be making sense to you either ;-), seems a rather
> poor
> >>>excuse for not wanting to do one's job.
> >>>
> >>>Are they afraid you'll love Mexico so much you're going to
> renounce
> >>>your
> >>>former-Canadian *and* US citizenships (IIRC)?
> >>>
> >>>What about elevation of the call, can you "take it to the manager"?
> Of
> >>>course I guess that sort of feeds into the Customer Service rant...
>
> >>>
> >>>Dana: Excuse me, I'd like a copy of my birth certificate, please.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: No, you don't.
> >>>Dana: I most certainly do, I've even filled out this lovely
> paperwork,
> >>>in triplicate.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: (takes paperwork and put it under
> desk) No
> >>>you haven't.
> >>>Dana: Oh, I just did.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: No you didn't
> >>>Dana: I did.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: It's lost. You'll have to fill it out
> again.
> >>>Dana: You just put it under your desk.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: Well, what did you want it for
> anyway?
> >>>Dana: What?
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: Your birth certificate.
> >>>Dana: I'm going on vacation, I must have it to secure my passport.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: Prove it.
> >>>Dana: Prove what?
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: That you're going on vacation.
> >>>Dana: What? I haven't got my passport yet.I'm not buying tickets
> until
> >>>I've obtained my passport.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: There, you see?
> >>>Dana: No.
> >>>Ontario Government Employee: No tickets, no vacation. No vacation,
> no
> >>>passport required. Good day (closes window)
> >>>
> >>>wow...that sucks...
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>will
> >>>
> >>>----
> >>>
> >>>William H Bowen
> >>>Marketing Communications Manager
> >>>AREVA T&D Corporation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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