>>women and children, then it's terrorism.
Sorry, but I disagree. I think it is warfare. To me, its all the same.
Whether it is the US carpet bombing Dresden, killing hundreds every week
(probably alot more than that), the towers falling, hiroshima getting nuked,
the little girl in Vietnam running down the street, Oklahoma city, suicide
bombers or the spanish train -- it doesnt matter -- someone is at war with
someone else. Two groups(or more) disagree, and someone pulls some sort of
switch or trigger and boom, you have carnage.
There's enough beef for all, but the bottom line is that if the Palestinians
wanted peace they could have it. They don't want peace, they want Israel
destroyed and Jews dead.
You are probably correct, and they are being supported, overtly and covertly
by Israel and America's enemies every day to achieve that goal.
They, like you, want to dilute it by asking 'well, do they have a beef'
Maybe I am diluting it, in your viewpoint, but in someone elses maybe I am
asking a pertinent question. I'm not saying that what has happened countless
times in Israel isn't wrong, or reprehensible. I am saying that to anothers
viewpoint it is open warfare, and that is all.
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Yes and no. The land in question, including what is now Jordan was set
asside by the league of nations to be a Jewish homeland. After land was
peeled off and peeled off again and again all Israel got was a sliver of
nothing. And even that was to much for the Arabs. Do they have a beef? Did
they have one before Israel existed when they killed off the population
(most of it) of Hebron? What of the Jews ran out of every other Arab country
when Israel was formed? There's enough beef for all, but the bottom line is
that if the Palestinians wanted peace they could have it. They don't want
peace, they want Israel destroyed and Jews dead.
Bottom line is that when murderous thugs are attacking and killing unarmed
women and children, then it's terrorism. I don't care if it's in Israel,
Spain or your home town. The news just doesn't want to recognize that when
it's Israel. They, like you, want to dilute it by asking 'well, do they have
a beef'. It doesn't matter. Attacking soldiers is the work of militants,
attacking innocents is the work of terrorist scum.
> It is sad Mike. Truth is with the anti-american sentiment throughout the
> world, and the fact that Israel is such a huge ally I would think that a
> large part of the world wouldn't mind seeing both of them fall on their
> faces and fail miserably, even if it means a few deaths (or thousands)
along
> the way.
>
> Please understand that the questions I am asking in this message are that,
> just questions and I am not taking on side over another.
>
> Then I am also torn, because when I try to look at this from the
Palestinian
> perspective (which I'll admit upfront I am not the most educated on). Do
the
> palestinians have a legitimate beef about their land being taken? Would I
as
> a man, act any differently if I was in their shoes? Would I then be a
> terrorist or a resistance fighter? Would my actions be that much different
> than the actions of some of my own people (americans) during the
> revolutionary war (not talking about homicide bombings here, but guerilla
> tactics), or the vietnamese people against US troops, or any resistance
> fighter during any conflict?
>
> What if I was an Israeli? Obviously I would be incensed at the carnage,
but
> would my feelings really be that much different than those of the people
> living on the other side of the fence?
>
> I think the terrorist label is being thrown around too freely in the world
> today. One mans terrorist is another's freedom fighter, patriot or
soldier.
> No matter the cause, belief or reason.
>
> Just my ramblings this morning. Wincing as I post this........
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:13 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: News bias
>
>
> I'm getting totally pissed with the bias in news reporting that I'm
seeing.
> A
> terrorist attack goes off in Spain and the world mourns and everyone
> denounces
> the terrorists. A terrorist attack goes off in Israel and the world says
> little
> (or blames Israel) and everyone mentions how it's the work of 'militants'.
> A terrorist is a terrorist is a terrorist. Doesn't matter if they kill
> innocents
> in Spain, Israel or anywhere else.
> NYTimes, AP, AFP, Washington Post and the BBC all have no problem calling
an
> attack outside of Israel a terrorist attack but can't seem to use the T
word
> when the attack is inside Israel. Reuters is just as bad, but worse in
this
> case
> and it describes the Spain attack as the work of 'guerillas'. Of course,
to
> them
> Hamas (who vow to totally destroy Israel and all Jews, even women and
> children)
> are described as 'guerillas' as well.
> Should I really be getting so upset? I know that the news agencies lie and
> manipulate both words and news to fit their political, moral or whatever
> agendas. There is no truth in advertising. There is no truth in those who
> are
> supposed to bring us truth. This is the state of the world.
>
> Truth for sale and everyone willing to buy whatever is being sold, even if
> they're being ripped off. The truth being sold is false.
>
> --
> Michael Dinowitz
> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had yet
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