Dear Jonathan,

Can we say what kind of particles these are? Presumably "cloud particle"
would be a reasonable description. In that case, could it be
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_particles_at_cloud_top
?
Yes indeed, you are right. These kind of particles are cloud water particles, so can we call it:
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top ?

We discussed some more about the defined_by_* suffixes, we would like to use infrared and near_infrared.

Finally these are the two standard_names:
- thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_infrared - thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_near_infrared

How about the CF compliance checkers, are they able to detect the defined_by_* suffix? It would be nice to keep only the standard_name without the defined_by_* variations in the list. I assume that the current CF-checker tools will not yet detect this?

Regards,
Maarten




Jonathan Gregory schreef:
Dear Maarten

Thank you for your care with this.

- thermodynamic_particle_phase_at_cloud_top (status_flag): "The thermodynamic phase of particles at the top of the cloud" ;
What are the allowed values of this quantity?
These are: liquid, ice and mixed. (flag_meanings = "liquid ice mixed" ;)

This is an unusual kind of quantity, a string-valued one with particular
allowed values; region and area_type are similar. That can be stated in the
definition. I understand that you'll probably encode it as integers using
the flag_meanings attribute.

Can we say what kind of particles these are? Presumably "cloud particle"
would be a reasonable description. In that case, could it be
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_particles_at_cloud_top
?

The first is indeed derived from visibile radiances while the second is derived from infrared radiances only.
OK. I would suggest appending defined_by_visible|infrared_radiance to make
this distinction in the standard name.

Best wishes

Jonathan
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