Dear Maarten and Jonathan,

Maarten has reminded me that the following names were discussed a few weeks ago:

- platform_zenith_angle (degree): "Platform zenith angle is the the angle 
between the line of sight to the platform and the local vertical";
- angle_of_rotation_from_solar_azimuth_to_platform_azimuth (degree):
"The angle of rotation between the solar azimuth angle and the platform azimuth 
angle";
- thickness_of_liquid_water_cloud (m): "Cloud thickness (cloud top height minus 
cloud base)";
- effective_radius_of_cloud_condensed_water_particles_at_cloud_top (m):
"Particle effective radius for both liquid and ice water particles";
- thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top (status_flag 
liquid, ice and mixed): "The thermodynamic phase of particles at the top of the 
cloud";
- 
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_infrared_radiance
(status_flag liquid, ice and mixed): "The thermodynamic phase of particles at 
the top of the cloud derived by using infrared radiances";
- 
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_near_infrared_radiance
(status_flag liquid, ice and mixed):" The thermodynamic phase of particles at 
the top of the cloud derived by using near-infrared radiances".

I think these names all follow the pattern of existing names and their meanings 
are generally clear.  One question - in your products, are 'infrared' and 
'near_infrared' separate ranges of wavelengths/frequencies? Please could you 
tell me the ranges so that I can include at least indicative values in the 
explanations of the names.  For the three status flag names, I suggest that the 
units should be '1',  i.e. a dimensionless value, assuming that the variables 
will be accompanied by flag_values and flag_meanings attributes. If we can 
clarify these points then I think the names can be accepted for inclusion in 
the standard name table.

Best wishes,
Alison

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Maarten Plieger
Sent: 30 November 2010 16:49
To: Jonathan Gregory
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] MSG Cloud physical properties codification

Dear Jonathan,

Good point. That is OK with us, off course. Thanks again!

Regards, Maarten 

Jonathan Gregory schreef: 
Dear Maarten

Yesterday I didn't notice that these don't have _radiance on the end. I think
that would make them clearer, if OK with you.

  
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_infrared 
thermodynamic_phase_of_cloud_water_particles_at_cloud_top_defined_by_near_infrared
 

When everybody agrees with these standard names, units and descriptions: 
what would be the next step?
    
Alison will consider them. She is responsible for moderating discussions and
updating the standard name table with agreed additions.

Best wishes

Jonathan
  



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