Hello Paris,

Devcon breaks even and didn't cost Allaire and yet they achieved much from it on the 
backs of the partners paying for the event. Devcon is payed for by
the partners and should be run by the partners.

Macromedia has been doing a good job in working with us and the price for the new 
event has been reduced in some areas.  So please don't take this
single gripe over a very limited issue and turn into more than it is... AbleCommerce 
has seen a genuine effort on the part of Macromedia to work with
it's partners to create a larger pool of ColdFusion users and move ColdFusion into the 
future.

Regards,

Mike Randolph


Paris Lundis wrote:

> Macromedia making more friends again :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Randolph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 12:13
> To: CF-Server
> Subject: AbleCommerce has never shown at Devcon.
>
> Hello Tobe,
>
> AbleCommerce has NEVER shown at Devcon.  So just because we are not going to
> the show AGAIN, doesn't mean anything other than... we don't want to go to
> DevCon for reasons that Macromedia WELL knows.
>
> Please feel free to contact me directly at (360) 253-4142, if you should
> have any additional questions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Randolph
>
> *********** ADDITIONAL FAQS BELOW HERE **********
>
> WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE SUPPORT FOR COLDFUSION and will be adding support
> for Macromedia JRun and Microsoft ASP. We are simply releasing our new
> products to multiple markets, which will help all of our partners.  We are
> in fact very excited to get our hands on the new NEO platform and will be
> releasing our new product hand in hand with the final release of NEO!!!
>
> To futher clarify:
>
>     1. We will be releasing 3 flavors of our new versions of the software
> including ColdFusion, JSP and Microsoft ASP.
>     2. The ColdFusion Version will be available when NEO is released, which
> is delaying the release slightly.
>     3. The JSP Version will Run on MacroMedia JRun and IBM Websphear and
> possibly others.
>     4. We have been constantly asking our partners for feedback on the new
> product and have made the product         available to partners whom have
> shown interest.
>
> Tobe Goldfinger wrote:
>
> > When I saw they weren't doing a vendor exhibit at last week's Devcon, I
> > suspected something was up........
> >
> > Tobe
> >
> > At 07:18 AM 10/28/2001 , you wrote:
> > >We are an Able Development partner and have been informed that the new
> 4.0
> > >AbleCommerce store is completely rewritten in ASP - the language. They
> are
> > >going to create a great amount of confusion with their customer base.
> They
> > >have already alienated their partners including our company. They have
> not
> > >even bothered to inform us in ANY way of the change in the store. I
> learned
> > >from talking with Mike in tech support last week. We've paid this company
> > >plenty of money to be affiliated with them and their hosting and
> development
> > >partner programs. You would THINK that they would have announced to us
> that
> > >they plan on scrapping ColdFusion in the new release. But NO that's not
> > >their style.
> > >
> > >We don't plan on EVER giving this company ANY more of our money. I hope
> the
> > >rest of the partners do likewise.
> > >
> > >John Vesta
> > >
> > >ColdFusion ASP ActiveState PERL Hosting
> > >Includes 10 Domains - 100% Browser Based Administration
> > >http://www.cybersmarts.net
> > >
> > >LogFileManager - IIS LogFile Management Tool
> > >WebPageChecker - Helps Maintain Server UpTime
> > >http://www.serverautomationtools.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Don Burnstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 4:23 PM
> > > > To: CF-Server
> > > > Subject: Re: AbleCommerce ...Make offer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > I don't know about ASP. The only mention of ASP on their site is a
> mention
> > > > of Application Service Providers (ASP) ...not the language ASP.
> > > > I was just
> > > > looking over the email they sent me and the version that I have is
> > > > upgradeable.
> > > > Not sure why they would switch to ASP since the majority of their
> > > > user base
> > > > has spent time and money on Cold Fusion Server and modifications on
> the
> > > > product.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here's a review of the latest verion 3.0
> > > > http://www.internetweek.com/reviews01/rev031901-4.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Don Burnstein
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Cesta - Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 1:59 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: AbleCommerce ...Make offer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Isn't new version 4.0 is ASP, not ColdFusion?
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Don Burnstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 2:25 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Server
> > > > > > Subject: OT: AbleCommerce ...Make offer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have the 5 store version 2.6 with source code . . Upgrade to
> > > > Version 4.0
> > > > > > when it's relased is $1,095.
> > > > > > New license is $2,995.00. Paid $1,800 for this version. Looking
> for a
> > > > > > reasonable offer.
> > > > > > I talked with Steve Cameron at AbleCommerce. He will be able
> > > > to transfer
> > > > > > the license to the new owner.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don Burnstein
> > > > > > The Image Factory
> > > > > > http://www.theimagefactory.com
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
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