Yep, in most cases it wil be a step up but you didn't mention your system specifications or your load.
My point is that usually CF5 machines are of lower spec than the ones required for MC installations. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -----Original Message----- From: john cesta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Server <[email protected]> Sent: Sat Apr 02 13:22:46 2005 Subject: RE: Linux vs Windows for CF Server? I've had cfmx6.1 on windows 2003 for over a year. Seems pretty stable to me. 0 problems installing, 0 problems running. Maybe we're lucky. Don't do a lot of java stuff or much in the way of "non-mainstream" John On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:26:10 -0500, Ben Rogers wrote: > We do a lot of work with third party developers. So, the problems > we run into are not usually of our own making, which can make > troubleshooting issues much more difficult than it needs to be. > > In fact, one customer in particular inherited a lot of very large, > poorly designed sites from a failing host. Though the sites > performed fine on ColdFusion 5/Windows 2000 at the old host, they > generally didn't do so well on ColdFusion MX/Windows Server 2003. > Most of the issues can be attributed to iffy coding practices. > > However, it wasn't always the developer's fault. Many of pages were > hit hard by the performance issue documented in the following > TechNote: > > http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19588 > > That TechNote was only published a few months ago. > > We've also had problems with the default JVM heap size settings, > case sensitivy issues, and a host of other things. For sites > developed on Linux, the case sensitivity issues are generally a > moot point. But, for Windows developers, they can cause a good deal > of head scratching. > > Anyway, like I said, I'm not trying to push all of our customers to > Linux. I'm just pointing out that, if you're familiar with the Unix > environment and/or J2EE, Linux is probably a good choice. I feel > that ColdFusion MX on Windows is not as comfortable a fit as > ColdFusion 5 on Windows was. > > As far as the claims that Linux has better > manageability/stability/reliability/whatever, well, I think each > person's mileage may vary. The RHEL 3 box we tore down a few months > back was by far the most troublesome server we've ever hosted. Just > trying to get a JVM up and running on it took an act of God. > Actually, it took disabling NPTL via the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL setting. > But finding that little bit of knowledge on the IBM site took days > of my life. > > Once the box was up and running (on 2 year old hardware because it > didn't support any recent motherboard chipsets or SATA RAID), it > required far more attention and patching than any Windows box I've > ever hosted. I'm certainly not sorry to see it go. > > I realize that you folks are probably not talking about using a > RedHat or Suse distribution. If you're willing to go with a more > community supported distribution, you'll probably have better luck > with hardware support. But that wasn't a choice for us on this > particular box (which was hosting the SAP J2EE Engine and Portal > Server). > > In general, I'd say that commercial products -- software and > hardware -- are more likely to support RHEL and Suse. So, you > better be willing to do a lot of extra work installing and > configuring software if you choose a community supported > distribution. Your best bet is probably to choose one of the RH > knock offs. > > Ben Rogers > http://www.c4.net > v.508.240.0051 > f.508.240.0057 > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gerald "Coz" Guido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:28 PM >> To: CF-Server >> Subject: Re: Linux vs Windows for CF Server? >> >> Huh, I have not had any of the problems that Ben Rogers >> experienced. CFMX has been running glitch free on my 2003 web >> edition production box for about a year now. Wait, CF hung with a >> Jrun error yesterday. That has been the only issue so far. >> >> I have been contemplating running CF on a Linux platform for >> quite some time. I am particularly interested in running it on >> Centos Linux http://www.centos.org/. >> >> The main issue that I have with Linux is my use of C++ CFX tags. >> I have so many site/apps running C++ CFX tags that It would be >> cost prohibitive to go find the java equivalents and rewrite the >> apps. I havent been shopping for CFX's in a while so I cant tell >> you what is avalible. >> >> Another issue you should consider is security, server maintenance >> and TOC. Being a small shop with limited time and resources, time >> is at a premium. Unless you have a lot of experience and/or you >> have someone who can lock it down and maintain it properly, the >> learning curve is pretty steep. >> >> Another issue to be aware of is that Linux can be a real time >> bandit. I have been using Linux (Redhat) for about 3-4 years now >> and experience has taught me that one of the major pains in the >> butt for Linux is adding software. Not being a big fan of >> prepackaged binaries, I found that hunting down dependencies in >> order to install an app can be a nightmare. I have spent days at >> a time hunting down dependencies so I could use this or that >> function/Mod in PHP/Apache. >> >> As far as performance goes, I read a long time ago that CF 5 on >> Linux out performed Windows. In general, Linux has lot less >> overhead than Windows and be configured/built to be very >> streamline and resource efficient. This too is also a matter of >> knowing what you are doing. >> >> Another non CF issue to consider is that there are a LOT more >> open source apps available for *nix servers than there are for >> Windows. I was trying to hunt down a decent Web Mail app to run >> on my Windows server and found that there were dozens of apps for >> *nix and all the *good* ones were written for *nix. It was real >> slim pickings for windows and the *nix apps had more features >> accross the board. >> >> The one thing I learned is that since linux is built from >> thousands of (interdependant) components it is a lot more >> configurable and powerfull than windows. You can build linux to >> run from a floppy or have an install base of several gigs. >> Howerver, with that many options/componants there is a LOT more >> to learn. >> >> That is my 2 cents. >> >> thanx, >> Coz >> >> ================================ >> Gerald "Coz" Guido [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Coztech Communications http://www.coztech.com >> 3765 Maria Circle Tallahassee, Fl 32303 >> phone: 850.443.8277 fax: 904-685-2211 >> ================================ >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Britta Bennett >> To: CF-Server >> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:03 PM >> Subject: Linux vs Windows for CF Server? >> >> >> My small company needs to start running its own CF server, and >> I'm trying to figure out: >> >> Is there is ANY reason to go with the costly windows platform >> rather than just run the CF server on Linux... Any advice re * >> stability, performance, other considerations* re Linux VS Windows >> for running CF? >> >> Any advice would be greatly apprciated.. >> Thanks very much! >> >> Sincerely, >> Britta Bennett >> West Coast Web >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:10:5317 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/10 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:10 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.10 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
