WBB,

Your trashing of AOL rather bothers me.  AOL is just an ISP like any 
other and if your application breaks when someone from AOL attempts to 
use it, then I would suggest the problem lies flatly on your end for 
your failure to support even the most basic of cross-browser 
compatibilities.

Furthermore, your insinuation that AOL'ers are all stupid, silly, 
ignorant, and what-not is way off base.  AOL has its share of newbies, 
but lots of professionals use it too.  

AOL has millions of users.  This is quite a large target customer base.  
I suggest you show them a bit more respect.

Specific notes on your post follow:

In <036c01bfa3f1$e3fcbae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, WBB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in a 
fit of unbridled passion, wrote:
[snip]
> 
> OR
> 
> AOL fixed the problem as we were installing 4.51 ;)

CFMAIL is an SMTP interface for CF on the server side.  How does it have 
anything to do whatsoever with AOL?

> > accommodates the problems on AOL's end. Do you honestly want Allaire to
> get
> > accounts with every major ISP so they can check to see if the ISP's stupid
> > procedures mess up the sites? I used to work at a hosting company and the
> 
> Of course not...but I would think that they would test it on the LARGEST
> modem community in the world...duh!

Why?  CF is a server-extension and has nothing to do with browsers or 
ISP's.


> > focus was on video hosting. Every time we had a broadcast, we would get
> > inundated with tech support calls from AOL users asking us why our site
> was
> > broken. You can't imagine how many times I had to explain to people
> exactly
> > why they needed to get a real ISP. AOL uses cached proxy servers and it is
> > bad bad bad.
> 
> I also do tech support and know just how lame AOL users can be and have used
> that same explaination as you did ;), however, that doesn't cover the fact
> that submit buttons or graphics buttons or verity searches wouldn't work
> using an AOL account until we upgraded to 4.51 (they worked fine with 1.5,
> 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0 and 4.1) from 4.5

Sounds to me like a problem with your developer's skillset or lack 
thereof.  


> > The really funny calls were the AOL users who said "What do you mean you
> > don't do tech support for AOL? You're the Internet, right?"
> >
> 
> I understand...we have several hundred customers that use our lines to
> connect to their AOL accounts and it's tough to explain to them why their
> AOL mail doesn't work ;)

AOL works fine over TCP/IP.  

-- 

Reuben King <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Senior Web Consultant
Stonebridge Technologies <http://www.sbti.com/>
Phone: (512) 502-3332
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