No Actually Reuben, unbridled passion is something you've not yet observed
from me, yet ;)
> WBB,
>
> Your trashing of AOL rather bothers me. AOL is just an ISP like any
Gee, I'm sorry...if I responded to everything that bothered me that I read
in news groups I wouldn't have a life.
> other and if your application breaks when someone from AOL attempts to
> use it, then I would suggest the problem lies flatly on your end for
> your failure to support even the most basic of cross-browser
> compatibilities.
I would suggest you ...uhhh...sorry, I can't say that in a public news
group...I would suggest you read what I posted. Our sites worked FINE with
AOL WITH EVERY release of CF from 1.5 to 4.51 EXCEPT 4.5
So tell me, what the hell does that have to do with cross-capatablility?
It's already been mentioned on this list more than once that it was a
problem and that Allaire had the remedy. I simply stated that for a MAJOR
RELEASE to not be compatible with some 20,000,000 user was crap and I still
stand by what I believe.
> Furthermore, your insinuation that AOL'ers are all stupid, silly,
> ignorant, and what-not is way off base. AOL has its share of newbies,
> but lots of professionals use it too.
I typed: "I know just how lame AOL users can be", not one mention of
'stupid', 'silly', 'ignorant' or 'what-not' which goes even further to show
that YOU DIDN'T read my post. However, if you're in any of the categories
that you attempted to place at the end of my fingers then I
apologize...maybe you'll get better ;)
> AOL has millions of users. This is quite a large target customer base.
> I suggest you show them a bit more respect.
Why? Are you an example?
> Specific notes on your post follow:
>
> In <036c01bfa3f1$e3fcbae0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, WBB ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) in a
> fit of unbridled passion, wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > OR
> >
> > AOL fixed the problem as we were installing 4.51 ;)
>
> CFMAIL is an SMTP interface for CF on the server side. How does it have
> anything to do whatsoever with AOL?
>
> > > accommodates the problems on AOL's end. Do you honestly want Allaire
to
> > get
> > > accounts with every major ISP so they can check to see if the ISP's
stupid
> > > procedures mess up the sites? I used to work at a hosting company and
the
> >
> > Of course not...but I would think that they would test it on the LARGEST
> > modem community in the world...duh!
>
> Why? CF is a server-extension and has nothing to do with browsers or
> ISP's.
>
>
> > > focus was on video hosting. Every time we had a broadcast, we would
get
> > > inundated with tech support calls from AOL users asking us why our
site
> > was
> > > broken. You can't imagine how many times I had to explain to people
> > exactly
> > > why they needed to get a real ISP. AOL uses cached proxy servers and
it is
> > > bad bad bad.
> >
> > I also do tech support and know just how lame AOL users can be and have
used
> > that same explaination as you did ;), however, that doesn't cover the
fact
> > that submit buttons or graphics buttons or verity searches wouldn't work
> > using an AOL account until we upgraded to 4.51 (they worked fine with
1.5,
> > 2.0, 2.5, 3.0, 3.1, 4.0 and 4.1) from 4.5
>
> Sounds to me like a problem with your developer's skillset or lack
> thereof.
>
>
> > > The really funny calls were the AOL users who said "What do you mean
you
> > > don't do tech support for AOL? You're the Internet, right?"
> > >
> >
> > I understand...we have several hundred customers that use our lines to
> > connect to their AOL accounts and it's tough to explain to them why
their
> > AOL mail doesn't work ;)
>
> AOL works fine over TCP/IP.
>
> --
>
> Reuben King <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Senior Web Consultant
> Stonebridge Technologies <http://www.sbti.com/>
> Phone: (512) 502-3332
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