Mike,
I, for one, would like to thank you for all your efforts in keeping
this FREE mail list alive and working. I have benefited from your
work here and thought it was about time I thanked you.
Best Regards,
Dennis Powers
UXB Internet
(203)879-2844
http://www.uxbinfo.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 1:31 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Mail Delay ?
I looked over the queued message base and didn't see any from your
domain. I
did see some things like:
*2 Message(s) queued for delphi.com
*Reason: Couldn't establish SMTP connection on port 25 (1 message(s))
*Reason: Server closed SMTP connection (RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(1
message(s))
*9 Message(s) queued for earthlink.net
*Reason: Server failed (MAIL)
*Last attempt: Sun May 21 00:06:34 2000
*7 Message(s) queued for globo.com
*Reason: MX lookup failure
*255 Message(s) queued for treesage.com
*Reason: Unknown
*Last attempt: Sun May 21 00:46:42 2000
As you can see, the reasons for mail not being sent can vary on a per
machine basis. Have you asked the person who runs your mailserver
about it?
There may be something with the connection under high volume.
The routing issues are people sending mail to others using the HoF
server as
their mailserver. Two days a week or so, I get 80 processes running
routing
messages rather than normal list functions. I'm hunting this down, but
it
takes time. The badly formatted mail headers causes a message to show
up in
the 'control' folder that can't be processed. This causes all threads
to
hang for some strange reason and has to be killed by hand.
Finally, I agree totally about the OT messages. My office was offline
all
friday due to a bell atlantic problem (and a storm). I didn't see the
messages till a lot later and was a bit upset to see so much of the
list
going to a 'nothing' topic. I mean, the virus was such a dud, it
didn't even
get to the list (which could also mean that everyone on the list is
protected). One message as a warning and then over to community. I'm
appointing a few 'extra' moniters to help move messages over to where
they
belong. If we can get the list tightened up, it'll save bandwidth and
time.
Ah, a perfect dream. :)
> Michael,
>
> "route through the server and send badly formatted email headers"
>
> Could you clarify this? I'd like to know if there's something I'm
doing
> wrong, as I'm commonly seeing delays of six or more hours on week
days.
> Needless to say, twelve hour turnaround times seriously decrease the
> usefulness of a support mailing list.
>
> I'd also like to see you address the recent increase in off-topic
postings
> to this list. If that's a part of the cause of the poor
performance, then
> I would think you'd be concerned. I've got no problem with someone
> posting a virus warning, but why the hell does it need to generate
25
> replies? It's gotten completely out of hand.
>
> Jim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] Mail Delay ?
>
>
> >Len, no disrespect intended, but I do accept help when offered and
have
> >answered you a number of times in the past. All I ever seem to get
from
> you
> >is public complaints (emailing me first and then the list 7 minutes
later
> is
> >a perfect example). I've sent the DNS issues to my ISP, but I fail
to see
> >how they are of massive importance to only you (re your isp taking
you
> off
> >the list).
> >Now, as for the machine, I've got 256 meg of ram and a high
processor on
> it
> >already. I'll upgrade to a new machine as time and finances permit.
As
> for
> >the delays, I've done a lot to fix them, but if people keep trying
to
> route
> >through the server and send badly formatted email headers, problems
will
> >continue to pop up. This WILL change as new systems go online. I'd
say
> that
> >90%+ of the time, the mail delay is within 10 minutes which is
quite
> >acceptable.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> >It's because there are a ton of people subscribed to the list
and the
> >> >list is hosted on a server that could use an upgrade. It has a
> tendency
> >> >to get bogged down.
> >> >
> >> >So who wants to pitch in to buy Michael a new server?
> >>
> >> Wrong approach.
> >>
> >> He could keep his current server for the locgical list
processing, and
> >> undisruptivelyh add something like an old P200 or better with 128
megs
> fo
> >> RAM running FreeBSD + postfix as a relay-only mail gateway for
doing
> the
> >> nasty task of actual mail delivery. But if history is any guide,
> offers
> >of
> >> help don't get accepted. For a list this large and active and
> important
> >to
> >> its members, CF-talk deserves better performance.
> >>
> >> For Imail (or any brand mailserver, even Michal's ), I've got a
site
> ...
> >>
> >> http://IMGate.MEIway.com
> >>
> >> ... that shows, and several ISP's done it successfully, how to
build
> such
> >a
> >> simple "appliance", including step-by-step for Installing FreeBSD
and
> the
> >> postfix mailer. It would also give the CF-talk list Internet's
best
> >> anti-spam defense and DNS validations. A machine like that could
> easily
> >> handle several 100,000 msgs per day.
> >>
> >> Michael's DNS is also screwed up so, but he won't answer my
repeated
> mails
> >> about how easily to fix it.
> >>
> >> Len
>
>
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