Hate to say it Matt, but I think you picked a losing battle here. >From my humble perspective, the CF-Talk List is THE source for information regarding CF issues, outside of the manuals, and a few books out there. As for being the number one community, well, You're here, so is Dave, and Michael, and Ben,and a ton of others ranging from novice to God in terms of coding skill. Does that not describe a community? And if Micael is doing this on his own time, isn't that philanthopic enough? Is it wrong for him to hint that help paying the bills for supporting the community is appreciated? I think not.
Matt, you ARE a good programmer, and you DO know your stuff. I've seen that simply by watching the list over the past year and a half. But, your comments are sometimes a little rougher than I think they were intended (I hope). Please keep in mind that written text does not convey the facial features, or tone of voice that sometimes need to be seen to understand the meaning. My thoughts.... Shawn Grover -----Original Message----- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior There are plenty of other people contributing to the ColdFusion community everyday and have been for quite some time. I don't see any of them asking jokingly or not for Macromedia to pay them. The whole point of contributing to the community is to do it for philanthropic reasons. Matt Liotta President & CEO Montara Software, Inc. http://www.montarasoftware.com/ V: 415-577-8070 F: 415-341-8906 P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > I didn't ask for a job, I was jokingly suggesting it and it went on from > there. If I really wanted a job with MM, I would have offered to move to > the west coast to take the community managers position when it was being > filled. I'm quite happy here. > Now for the fact. I do make a living in ColdFusion. It's what I do and > have been doing for the last 7 years. I also support my community with the > lists and other features. I'd love to do a lot more but can't due to the > time and money issues. A consultant has to deal with this reality. If I > could find a solid company who would put up with me servicing the > community or even profit from it, I would. It's just not the right climate > now. > > > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia should > > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia like > > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and a > > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what they do > > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply not > > the way to approach it. > > > > Michael, if you really want to make a living working for the ColdFusion > > community I suggest you either apply for a job with Macromedia through > > the normal channels or better yet; start your own ColdFusion community > > portal. If you make it the number one spot for ColdFusion developers to > > go then I am sure you will be able to find plenty of ad revenue from > > companies like Macromedia. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question > > > continues, > > > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for asking > > the > > > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the > > question". > > > I > > > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll cut > > down > > > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > > > > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over and > > over, > > > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best lists > > I've > > > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question that > > some > > > people would label stupid. > > > > > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me for > > > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time as > > is. > > > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this list > > is > > > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
