All hail mikey, mikey d is the messiah! Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer EDIETS.COM 954.360.9022 X159 ICQ 417645 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 3:30 PM Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior
> Absolutely agreed Shawn...Anyone who has time to help make this community > better, should do so. I myself am designing a web interface for employers and > people hunting for work to be able to post via the web to look at resumes, > code samples and job opportunities. Now if Michael does not want to use it > when it is done, at least the offer will be made. Michael is always trying to > give us "The Community" what we want as far as list features go, and our > support of him is just as important. > > > > > Douglas Brown > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:19 PM > Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > > > > Hate to say it Matt, but I think you picked a losing battle here. > > > > From my humble perspective, the CF-Talk List is THE source for information > > regarding CF issues, outside of the manuals, and a few books out there. As > > for being the number one community, well, You're here, so is Dave, and > > Michael, and Ben,and a ton of others ranging from novice to God in terms of > > coding skill. Does that not describe a community? And if Micael is doing > > this on his own time, isn't that philanthopic enough? Is it wrong for him > > to hint that help paying the bills for supporting the community is > > appreciated? I think not. > > > > Matt, you ARE a good programmer, and you DO know your stuff. I've seen that > > simply by watching the list over the past year and a half. But, your > > comments are sometimes a little rougher than I think they were intended (I > > hope). Please keep in mind that written text does not convey the facial > > features, or tone of voice that sometimes need to be seen to understand the > > meaning. > > > > My thoughts.... > > > > Shawn Grover > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:40 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > There are plenty of other people contributing to the ColdFusion > > community everyday and have been for quite some time. I don't see any of > > them asking jokingly or not for Macromedia to pay them. The whole point > > of contributing to the community is to do it for philanthropic reasons. > > > > Matt Liotta > > President & CEO > > Montara Software, Inc. > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > V: 415-577-8070 > > F: 415-341-8906 > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:18 AM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > I didn't ask for a job, I was jokingly suggesting it and it went on > > from > > > there. If I really wanted a job with MM, I would have offered to move > > to > > > the west coast to take the community managers position when it was > > being > > > filled. I'm quite happy here. > > > Now for the fact. I do make a living in ColdFusion. It's what I do and > > > have been doing for the last 7 years. I also support my community with > > the > > > lists and other features. I'd love to do a lot more but can't due to > > the > > > time and money issues. A consultant has to deal with this reality. If > > I > > > could find a solid company who would put up with me servicing the > > > community or even profit from it, I would. It's just not the right > > climate > > > now. > > > > > > > It awfully presumptuous for people who to suggest who Macromedia > > should > > > > hire. Further, it seems ridiculous to ask for a job with Macromedia > > like > > > > was just done. Macromedia already has an evangelist (Ben Forta) and > > a > > > > community manager (Vernon Viehe). If you don't like them or what > > they do > > > > that is one issue, but suggestion they hire someone else is simply > > not > > > > the way to approach it. > > > > > > > > Michael, if you really want to make a living working for the > > ColdFusion > > > > community I suggest you either apply for a job with Macromedia > > through > > > > the normal channels or better yet; start your own ColdFusion > > community > > > > portal. If you make it the number one spot for ColdFusion developers > > to > > > > go then I am sure you will be able to find plenty of ad revenue from > > > > companies like Macromedia. > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > President & CEO > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > > > > V: 415-577-8070 > > > > F: 415-341-8906 > > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 10:38 AM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: Re: (Admin) Behavior > > > > > > > > > > At 01:23 PM 7/25/02 -0400, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > > > > >If the behavior of flaming simple, common or any other question > > > > > continues, > > > > > >I'm going to be forced to assign homework to the flamer. > > > > > >"If your so good at this that you can bash someone else for > > asking > > > > the > > > > > >question, then you have to write up a short FAQ to answer the > > > > question". > > > > > I > > > > > >think that if enough of these FAQs are written then maybe it'll > > cut > > > > down > > > > > >on what some feel are easy or silly > > > > > > > > > > Excellent idea. I agree that the same question gets asked over > > and > > > > over, > > > > > but it isn't the end of the world. This is one of the two best > > lists > > > > I've > > > > > ever been on, largely because I can feel free to ask a question > > that > > > > some > > > > > people would label stupid. > > > > > > > > > > >questions. I can't do this alone until someone decides to pay me > > for > > > > > >hosting the lists and community work. I barely have enough time > > as > > > > is. > > > > > >(Yes, this is a hint to Macromedia) > > > > > > > > > > I think you should be hired on as a technology evangelist - this > > list > > > > is > > > > > probably one of the greatest marketing machines MM has access to. > > > > > > > > > > T > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
