Just so you know MM techs are telling people to use the MM Forums to
submit problems.  See the quote below:

"With regard to the new error you had posted, I have to request that you
post this issue to the ColdFusion Community Forum where ColdFusion
Engineers, Team Macromedia members and other developers, system and
network administrators can assist you.  The ColdFusion Community Forum
is located here: http://webforums.macromedia.com/coldfusion/.  This new
issue you had included falls beyond the scope of Macromedia Installation
support.  The detailed guidelines that qualify for an installation
support can be reviewed at:
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm?ID=10244&Method=Full.";




-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Noller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 7:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: [OT] Problems with CFMX?

Hey All-

        I just wanted to take a moment and discuss something which has
been bothering me. There are a lot of good discussions on this list
about CFMX; however, there are a lot of "CFMX suck because of X"
threads.

        I wanted to take a moment to mention something. Generally, there
are a lot of internal people here at Macromedia on these lists, but we
don't have the time or the resources to address every single issue with
the attention you the user deserve.

        This raises the point that we, as employees, may respond to
given user issues, but really, in order to get things fixed (if in fact
it *is* a bug) a bug must be entered into our bug tracking system, and
then escalated.

        Getting a bug into the system can basically go a few ways:

        1: A subscriber to the list internally figures it's a very bad
bug, and submits it his or herself. 

        2: A user calls technical support and a bug is found, and
submitted into the bug system, and then escalated.

        3: A user goes to:

        http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/?6213=3

        If that URL does not work: 

        http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/

        (Go to the bottom, under feedback, and click "submit feature
request for coldfusion)


        Those are the only three real ways of getting those issues you
think are "severe bugs" addressed. To be honest, the best way of getting
it addressed is to do number three. We need it to be entered into our
system, with a fully reproducible test case.

        This means we need your operating system specs and revision,
service packs and patches. We need your web server version; we need the
code, or at least access to the code you are running. 

        This way, we can go through, and find serious bugs. I know, for
each one of you who finds any bug generally, to you, that is one show
stopper of a bug, but bugs like say, broken COM support cannot be
adequately addressed unless submitted directly into out bug database.

        The mailing lists generate a great deal of traffic, this is a
good thing, but those of us who watch the lists internally miss things.
Debbie, Sean and Vernon, as well as myself can only spend a finite
amount of time each day reading the couple hundred emails that cross the
lists, the few hundred forums postings, the newsgroups, etc.

        The quickest, easiest and most direct approach is to submit the
bug directly to the database. When you find what you think is a bug,
please, please, please submit it.

        This applies to things like "The Apache module is stupid" and
other such items. Want the Apache module source to be shipped? Submit a
request into that DB in either an enhancement request, or in a bug
report and explain why.

        This will save a lot of us a lot of trouble. Yes, fellow
"Macromedians" monitor the list, but we can't catch every actual bug,
and filtering the lists is painful at best. 

        Ok, I'm done now. Back to work. 

Jesse Noller
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux "special guy" 



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