WDDX intensive applications: Applications that require serialization and
deserialization of WDDX for every call to the middle-tier. Each web
request required one or more calls to the middle-tier.

Great performance: The applications were able to scale to meet the
demand the users placed on them with only a couple of servers. These
applications successfully handled 10-100 million page views per month.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> 
> How about details on what you mean by...
> 
> "successfully been able to achieve great performance"
> "intensive applications"
> 
> 
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Matt Liotta wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, I no longer work for the companies in question, so I can't
give
> > exact details.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > V: 415-577-8070
> > F: 415-341-8906
> > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:14 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Re: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > >
> > > Can you give us some details?
> > >
> > > Is this performance equal in (CF 4.5, 5, and MX)?
> > > What software did you use for Load Testing? No of users? Machine?
OS?
> > > Client Scope WDDX involved?
> > > Data store WDDX involved?
> > > Any performance results.. would be really appreciated.
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:35 PM
> > > Subject: RE: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have successfully been able to achieve great performance out
of
> > WDDX
> > > > intensive applications using CF 4.5, 5, and MX.
> > > >
> > > > Matt Liotta
> > > > President & CEO
> > > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > > V: 415-577-8070
> > > > F: 415-341-8906
> > > > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 10:15 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > Subject: Re: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > > > >
> > > > > Stace,
> > > > >         No..Not Client Scope. That would be a real big
> > > > problem..(client
> > > > > scope WDDX)... if all this
> > > > >         turns out to be true....(WDDX Serialize - Deserialize)
> > > > performance
> > > > > in CFMX unless there
> > > > >         is an optmized way(cfmx) to code WDDX. Yea.. WDDX in
> > client
> > > > scope
> > > > > is
> > > > > great...
> > > > >         The App am dealing with...WDDX is written to the
database
> > for
> > > > > Content MGMT,
> > > > >         i didnt code this.. am not sure.. why the developer
used
> > this
> > > > > method..The data
> > > > >         is even redundant.
> > > > >         Have you had a chance to LOAD TEST any Client Scope
WDDX
> > in
> > > > > CFMX..?
> > > > > Curious?
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Stacy Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 12:10 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey Joe I'm curious...these objects...are they wddx packets
> > stored
> > > > in
> > > > > client
> > > > > > scope which in turn is in your client variable datasource?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stace
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:54 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > > > Subject: Re: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sean,
> > > > > >         I havent come to a final test result.. but i think
we
> > are
> > > > > narrowing
> > > > > > it
> > > > > >         down to the Complex Object(WDDX) returned from the
data
> > > > store
> > > > > >         that gets parsed out WDDX2CFML..
> > > > > >         Custom Tags are probably running ok/fast.. probably
its
> > the
> > > > WDDX
> > > > > >         parsing..in CFMX that causes the CPU to run
80-90%...
> > > > Atleast we
> > > > > >         are seeing a pattern here with tests.
> > > > > >         I will try to write case/result...end of this week
or
> > so.
> > > > > >         Is it possible that you can find out..
> > > > > >         How the Java Implementation of WDDX2CFML has changed
in
> > > > CFMX?
> > > > > >         Any WDDX implementation changes(Not in docs) will be
> > > > helpful.
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Sean A Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 11:00 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: CFMX Taking all CPU Resources?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 07:26 , Joe Eugene wrote:
> > > > > > > >         Do you know of any internal WDDX implementation
> > > > differences
> > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > >         CFMX and CF5.0 .. CFMX
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Er, yes, it was written in C/C++ in CF5 and it's been
> > rewritten in
> > > > > Java
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > CFMX. As has everything else. Read my lips Joe: CFMX is a
> > complete
> > > > > > rewrite.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >         What does #1 mean?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't know. I don't use JavaScript with queries so I
don't
> > know
> > > > what
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > behavior was or how it changed.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >         If WDDX data is Stored in a DB and output using
> > custom
> > > > > tags..
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > there any internal CFMX
> > > > > > > >         implementation that would degrade performance
> > compared
> > > > to
> > > > > CF5.0?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, custom tag invocations are faster in CFMX than in
CF5. I
> > > > have no
> > > > > > > idea about WDDX. Do you *think* it is slower? Have you
written
> > a
> > > > test
> > > > > case
> > > > > > > and *proved* there is a noticeable difference? Why don't
you
> > try
> > > > it
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > yourself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really
alive."
> > > > > > > -- Margaret Atwood
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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