I solved the Flash MX problem by hiring one of the guys who wrote the
Flash MX certification test and is writing the accompanying book. I also
know at least two other Flash MX developers in the Bay Area that are up
to speed on Flash remoting now.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
> 
> My only issue with the "Rich Client" thing is... well... there's only
one
> branden hall in the world and Mr. Watts, I'm sure you're doing a good
job
> keeping him busy.  Seriously, to truly be a good developer into Flash
> Remoting, I think we'd have to have that much knowledge, because as it
> stands... getting Data into Flash is easy, but I have a feeling a lot
of
> CF
> developers (like myself) are going to scratch their heads and go, "Now
> what?"
> 
> Ideally, this would be great if your business was split equally
between CF
> / Flash MX people and you had a great team of both that could learn
from
> each other.  My problem is, that... at the company I work for, only
the
> "partners" get to play with Flash and even then, they're hacks and...
> don't
> even know that Flash MX is out yet (nor the power they can do with
it).
> 
> Sigh... did I mention I'm looking for a new job? ;)
> 
> ~Todd
> 
> At 07:30 PM 8/1/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > > Is it me, or has anyone else noticed there's a REALLY strong
> > > push for Flash lately at all the CFUGs and conferences?? Is
> > > there any particular reason for this?
> >
> >Sure. MM sells CF, MM sells Flash, MM would like more money!
> >
> >On a more serious note, though, I think that MM's strategy is to push
> >developers into what you might call "rich client" applications. There
are
> a
> >lot of limitations in what you can do with an HTML GUI. Flash goes
far
> >beyond those limitations, allowing you to build applications that
provide
> >significantly more functionality. The reason that web applications
are
> >popular isn't because of the great HTML interface - it's probably
close
> to
> >as bad an interface as possible. So, the logical next step is to
provide
> >web-based applications with better interfaces. This was the original
> promise
> >of Java, if you remember back a few years. Flash is a tool which can
> fulfill
> >that promise.
> >
> > > I like Flash - don't get me wrong. But I view it as a GUI
> > > frill that I doubt I can sell to my clients who want a
> > > functional business application. Anyone here can tell me
> > > why/how I could sell them Flash which would be over and
> > > above CF development?
> >
> >It's a common programmers' mistake to think about interfaces as a
> "frill".
> >For an end-user, the interface is ALL THERE IS. Good interface design
is
> >necessary for a good application. HTML interfaces may be passable,
but I
> >wouldn't consider them "good" - you'd really hate to use every
function
> on
> >your computer through such an interface, wouldn't you?
> >
> >So, to counteract this misunderstanding, you might show functional
> business
> >applications written in Flash to your clients. In such an
application,
> >you'll see things that would be impractical or impossible in HTML -
using
> >Flash to add functionality, instead of "skip intro" glitter. These
> >applications are out there.
> >
> >Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> >http://www.figleaf.com/
> >voice: (202) 797-5496
> >fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> 
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