Are you guys beating a dead horse just because Matt was riding it?

If you are developing HTML for an Intranet do you stop and worry about the
10k graphic files and try to get them down to 3k?  If the UI works, it
works.  If you are developing for the web, or have users of your Intranet
coming in over 28.8, then you worry about it.  Flash has to be similar (NOT
a Flash person here).  Matt's point is that a good developer knows when to
worry about the bandwidth and when not to, but above all else is that the
app meet the client's needs ... if speed over a 28.8 is required, then ya
better skinny it down.

Dan

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Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?


> I would think any competent UI person would consider usability an
> inherent business requirement. So obviously, if the UI feels slow or
> klunky to the user than it isn't really usable. However, that doesn't
> mean that performance and bandwidth are a consideration. This thread
> started out comparing the bandwidth utilization of html based web
> applications vs. Flash applications. The statement was that the Flash
> application would use less bandwidth. So, let's assume that two Flash
> applications had a similar UI, but were implemented differently. The
> first UI used considerably less bandwidth than the second, but both used
> less bandwidth than their html equivalents. Additionally, let's assume
> that the first UI used less bandwidth because the Flash developer spent
> time trying to reduce the bandwidth usage.

Matt,
        I think I fail to understand your point still.  Can you give a
concrete
example?  So far you've only given generalizations.  Can you elaborate?  For
example, how was the first Flash movie made to use less bandwidth?  When it
comes to Flash, it's difficult to decrease the amount of bandwidth from one
Flash movie to the next simply because it's all basic data.  When you
compare HTML pages, you can take out or optimize graphics.

Also, I don't think I agree with your first statement entirely.  You state
that:

        "if the UI feels slow or klunky to the user than it isn't
        really usable.  However, that doesn't mean that performance
        and bandwidth are a consideration".

While I believe there are many considerations for UI, I don't know how you
could say that performance and bandwidth simply aren't a consideration.
Perhaps they are less significant at times, but rarely are they not a
consideration.




Ben Johnson


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