You should have signed an intellectual property agreement when you were
hired. It details you rights in this regard. As with all legal matters,
you are advised to seek counsel from a professional.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:02 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Intellectual property (was RE: programmer vs. developer)
> 
> <quote>
> "Finally, I think this expectation that most of us have about being a
> programmer 24/7 demonstrates the relative immaturity of our field;
after
> all, it really should be just like any other job, instead of being a
hobby
> that you happen to get paid for. Sure, it's nice to enjoy your work,
but
> work is just one part of the life of a well-rounded person."
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> </quote>
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Curious question for you.  To those of us that enjoy programming as a
> hobby and actually do research on our own outside of work time.  How
does
> intellectual property fit into this.  The reason why I bring this up
is
> because well, due to the immaturity of most comapnies wanting their
> developers to work 24/7, basically anything I concieve of is by right
of
> employment contract, theirs.  In their eyes, a salaried employee is
> something akin to a ... well... a wageslave.
> 
> Take the little company I work for.  They'd love it if I worked for
them
> 24/7.  The partners would get a kick out of it, especially if they
could
> purchase another SUV within a few months.  However, I have been
hesitant
> to hand over anything, but at times, I've had no choice due to the
lack of
> time they give me for a particular project.  My methodology for
example.
> The project manager basically scoped out what he felt my co-worker and
I
> were developing, asked me to read this over and ... published it on
the
> intranet.  At the same time, I'm thinking to myself, why did I just do
> that?  What did I gain from it?  I got no recognition for it, I got
> nothing.  So, if I were to ever break away from my current job, I'd be
> pretty screwed if they found out that I'm still using 'my' so called
> methodology for future clients.
> 
> I'm very concerned about the future and maturity level of the so
called
> "internet/development" companies out there.  How does figleaf handle
> creative ideas like this?
> 
> Case in point, Branden Hall.  I'm sure he cranks out actionscripting
code
> all day long and posts code left and right and handles what he can to
help
> people out.  How does Figleaf distinguish between his intellectual
> property and commercial value?  Does Branden run every little script
of
> code over to someone at figleaf and ask for permission to release it?
If
> Figleaf uses his code that he wrote on his time, does he get
compensated?
> recognized?  Does Figleaf automatically by default suck in his code
into
> their intellectual property library because it was used that one time?
> 
> Just curious,
> ~Todd
> 
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