Is that one of the policies for your list, Mike?  Is that the topic
becomes a "bother?"  When people are passionate about something,
does it then become inappropriate?

I realize you want to keep inappropriate bickering and squabbling
from the list, and keep the community healthy, but feeding the Christians
to the lions to please the pagans is not the way to do it.

Your response, based on the overwhelming OT and WOT stuff that appears
on this list, should have been to tell those who didn't like the original
invitation
that their perspective was wrong and their was nothing wrong with the
invitation
just because of the type of person who issued it.  If you do believe that,
then
you took the cowardly way out by sacrificing the truth for convenience.  If
you don't
believe that, then you really are biased in your judgment of what's
appropriate for
the list and what's not.  With great power comes great responsibility.

You bend the rules constantly be allowing coded profanity in many messages,
which you probably have rules against, but you never speak against that even
though
it offends.  But let the word Christian appear, and you would think that the
worst
profanity had been uttered.

All we ask is for fair judgment.  Not judgment that the most convenient.

Freedom is necessary, even when it's untidy.  If it weren't for the
Christians
who founded this nation, we woudn't even be posting here.  We'd be like the
Chinese,
who lack the freedom to discuss anything that might cause problems.

I was prepared to let the original invitation be the one and only post
concerning this
topic as the author intended, but others who were "offended" started this
and should be
the ones chastised for inappropriate list-behavior.

I'm prepared to end it here, unless someone else insists on continuing...and
I would say,
based on the responses I've seen, the opinions are running pretty strongly
that
something's wrong with the response to this situation...

Thanks for your time.

Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Why?


Dave, As I posted to you off list, I pick on ALL of the OT threads that
start to become a bother. If I ask for it to be moved and its not, then its
a perfect candidate. If it goes on for more than 3 or so posts, its a
perfect candidate. If it causes people to debate the issue as you are doing
below then it definitely has to be moved.
If you or anyone else would like to talk to me about my policies, I'll be up
till 1am for OFF LIST posts. If someone wants to have it on list, PLEASE
MOVE IT TO CF-COMMUNITY WHERE IT FITS. You can even subscribe temporarily
just for this thread.


> With all due respect Michael, why pick on this thread, with all of the OT
> stuff that comes through?  I recall a while back, a thread with a
religious
> tone that you not only propagated, but you originated.  Something to do
with
> the need to walk to a conference from the hotel on the Sabbath and hoping
it
> would not rain.  That thread went for quite a bit and nothing was ever
said
> about stopping it.  I know you own the list, but without the community,
it's
> nothing.  And we all ARE the community.  I just don't understand this.
The
> original post did nothing wrong.  It was a simple plea to form a group of
> programmers that had a common interest.  No different than wanting to form
a
> group of programmers from, say, the East Coast.  But because the word
> "Christian" was used, people go bezerk!  I believe you asked it to be
moved
> even before the wack-o's started their senseless rebellion.
>
> Dave
>
> > Please move this to CF-Community before I have to force the move.
Thanks.
> > (Yes, the list software is written in CF and uses iMS. This means I can
> > control every thing down to the way you spell your name and can alter it
> at
> > will. I just don't like to). :)
> > signed - Your evil list master
>
>
>
>

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