OMG this is silly. I call for separation of church and IT... It always works better that way :-)
Your Christian programmer, Gary Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 10:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Why? Is that one of the policies for your list, Mike? Is that the topic becomes a "bother?" When people are passionate about something, does it then become inappropriate? I realize you want to keep inappropriate bickering and squabbling from the list, and keep the community healthy, but feeding the Christians to the lions to please the pagans is not the way to do it. Your response, based on the overwhelming OT and WOT stuff that appears on this list, should have been to tell those who didn't like the original invitation that their perspective was wrong and their was nothing wrong with the invitation just because of the type of person who issued it. If you do believe that, then you took the cowardly way out by sacrificing the truth for convenience. If you don't believe that, then you really are biased in your judgment of what's appropriate for the list and what's not. With great power comes great responsibility. You bend the rules constantly be allowing coded profanity in many messages, which you probably have rules against, but you never speak against that even though it offends. But let the word Christian appear, and you would think that the worst profanity had been uttered. All we ask is for fair judgment. Not judgment that the most convenient. Freedom is necessary, even when it's untidy. If it weren't for the Christians who founded this nation, we woudn't even be posting here. We'd be like the Chinese, who lack the freedom to discuss anything that might cause problems. I was prepared to let the original invitation be the one and only post concerning this topic as the author intended, but others who were "offended" started this and should be the ones chastised for inappropriate list-behavior. I'm prepared to end it here, unless someone else insists on continuing...and I would say, based on the responses I've seen, the opinions are running pretty strongly that something's wrong with the response to this situation... Thanks for your time. Rick <>< -----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Why? Dave, As I posted to you off list, I pick on ALL of the OT threads that start to become a bother. If I ask for it to be moved and its not, then its a perfect candidate. If it goes on for more than 3 or so posts, its a perfect candidate. If it causes people to debate the issue as you are doing below then it definitely has to be moved. If you or anyone else would like to talk to me about my policies, I'll be up till 1am for OFF LIST posts. If someone wants to have it on list, PLEASE MOVE IT TO CF-COMMUNITY WHERE IT FITS. You can even subscribe temporarily just for this thread. > With all due respect Michael, why pick on this thread, with all of the > OT stuff that comes through? I recall a while back, a thread with a religious > tone that you not only propagated, but you originated. Something to > do with > the need to walk to a conference from the hotel on the Sabbath and > hoping it > would not rain. That thread went for quite a bit and nothing was ever said > about stopping it. I know you own the list, but without the > community, it's > nothing. And we all ARE the community. I just don't understand this. The > original post did nothing wrong. It was a simple plea to form a group > of programmers that had a common interest. No different than wanting > to form a > group of programmers from, say, the East Coast. But because the word > "Christian" was used, people go bezerk! I believe you asked it to be moved > even before the wack-o's started their senseless rebellion. > > Dave > > > Please move this to CF-Community before I have to force the move. Thanks. > > (Yes, the list software is written in CF and uses iMS. This means I > > can control every thing down to the way you spell your name and can > > alter it > at > > will. I just don't like to). :) > > signed - Your evil list master > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
