1. If a post is not technical in nature than it is off topic. 2. If a post is a 'debate' post (as this one is) then it is off topic. 3. If a post degrades into fights, even if it started as an on topic post, then it has moved into being off topic.
Now, I'll say this one more time. The original poster asked people to email him OFF LIST. When I asked for the topic not to be posted to, more messages came in. After another request from me to move the topic to the list where it was appropriate and 18 messages on it, I blocked it. Is it a bother? Yes, for CF-Talk. No for CF-Community. On CF-Community people can be as passionate as they want on the topic. That's the proper place for community posts and off topic debates. I'm not stifling peoples free speech nor sacrificing Christians to Pagans. I'm trying to keep the list on topic as best I can. And yes, I have blocked other OT topics in the past on this and on other lists. > Is that one of the policies for your list, Mike? Is that the topic > becomes a "bother?" When people are passionate about something, > does it then become inappropriate? > > I realize you want to keep inappropriate bickering and squabbling > from the list, and keep the community healthy, but feeding the Christians > to the lions to please the pagans is not the way to do it. > > Your response, based on the overwhelming OT and WOT stuff that appears > on this list, should have been to tell those who didn't like the original > invitation > that their perspective was wrong and their was nothing wrong with the > invitation > just because of the type of person who issued it. If you do believe that, > then > you took the cowardly way out by sacrificing the truth for convenience. If > you don't > believe that, then you really are biased in your judgment of what's > appropriate for > the list and what's not. With great power comes great responsibility. > > You bend the rules constantly be allowing coded profanity in many messages, > which you probably have rules against, but you never speak against that even > though > it offends. But let the word Christian appear, and you would think that the > worst > profanity had been uttered. > > All we ask is for fair judgment. Not judgment that the most convenient. > > Freedom is necessary, even when it's untidy. If it weren't for the > Christians > who founded this nation, we woudn't even be posting here. We'd be like the > Chinese, > who lack the freedom to discuss anything that might cause problems. > > I was prepared to let the original invitation be the one and only post > concerning this > topic as the author intended, but others who were "offended" started this > and should be > the ones chastised for inappropriate list-behavior. > > I'm prepared to end it here, unless someone else insists on continuing...and > I would say, > based on the responses I've seen, the opinions are running pretty strongly > that > something's wrong with the response to this situation... > > Thanks for your time. > > Rick > <>< > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:24 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Why? > > > Dave, As I posted to you off list, I pick on ALL of the OT threads that > start to become a bother. If I ask for it to be moved and its not, then its > a perfect candidate. If it goes on for more than 3 or so posts, its a > perfect candidate. If it causes people to debate the issue as you are doing > below then it definitely has to be moved. > If you or anyone else would like to talk to me about my policies, I'll be up > till 1am for OFF LIST posts. If someone wants to have it on list, PLEASE > MOVE IT TO CF-COMMUNITY WHERE IT FITS. You can even subscribe temporarily > just for this thread. > > > > With all due respect Michael, why pick on this thread, with all of the OT > > stuff that comes through? I recall a while back, a thread with a > religious > > tone that you not only propagated, but you originated. Something to do > with > > the need to walk to a conference from the hotel on the Sabbath and hoping > it > > would not rain. That thread went for quite a bit and nothing was ever > said > > about stopping it. I know you own the list, but without the community, > it's > > nothing. And we all ARE the community. I just don't understand this. > The > > original post did nothing wrong. It was a simple plea to form a group of > > programmers that had a common interest. No different than wanting to form > a > > group of programmers from, say, the East Coast. But because the word > > "Christian" was used, people go bezerk! I believe you asked it to be > moved > > even before the wack-o's started their senseless rebellion. > > > > Dave > > > > > Please move this to CF-Community before I have to force the move. > Thanks. > > > (Yes, the list software is written in CF and uses iMS. This means I can > > > control every thing down to the way you spell your name and can alter it > > at > > > will. I just don't like to). :) > > > signed - Your evil list master > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
