Macromedia's perceived lack of response has been a fairly popular topic on this list. While I don't completely agree with the perception, anything that allows developers greater interaction with MM (such as a JCP-like program) would be awesome. My concern though, is with implementing the tags/functions before going through MM. Again, this is exactly what Netscape and MS did with their browser-specific HTML variants and we've all suffered as a result.
Again, I don't want anyone to misunderstand where I'm coming from. Competition = good; Progress = good; yadda yadda yadda. I just don't want to get caught up in another scenario like the above. I mean, can you imagine writing code for a client only to find out later that they require variation A of CFML instead of variation B? -- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 6:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: CFML standardization (was RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX > J2EE implemented?)) > > > Vince brings up a good point. Certainly, a little competition would be > good for ColdFusion and allow the evolution of CFML to be market driven > instead of controlled by Macromedia. Sun has had great success with > their JCP program because it allows for a single Java standard, but > input from many different vendors. Critics of JCP may argue that it > isn't true standardization like ECMA or ISO would provide, but I doubt > anyone would prefer Sun didn't provide JCP at all. > > I think it would be great if Macromedia started a similar program > allowing for more formal input from the community. Such a program might > even allow those of us who feel ignored by Macromedia to obtain more > effective responses. > > Matt Liotta > President & CEO > Montara Software, Inc. > http://www.montarasoftware.com/ > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?) > > > > Yep, understood. That's why we're also planning to support the > > GetPageContext() function (though not in the service pack). We're > > hopeful that if we introduce anything that's truly useful in the way > of > > new tags or functions that Macromedia will choose to implement them in > > CFMX. > > > > Here's an thought: do you have an idea for a favorite new CFML tag or > > function, but your request has fallen on deaf ears? Let me know what > it > > is and I'll see if we can get it implemented in BlueDragon. That might > > give Macromedia some incentive to also implement it in ColdFusion. > > > > Vince Bonfanti > > New Atlanta Communications, LLC > > http://www.newatlanta.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:47 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: BlueDragon (was RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?) > > > > > > > > > Not that I think the idea behind the newly introduced tags > > > are bad (in fact, quite the opposite) but I'm kind of > > > surprised that you're introducing new tags at all. I realize > > > that your intent with Bluedragon is probably not to be > > > "cross-platform" compatible (backwards compatible?) with > > > Macromedia's product, but this "splitting," if you will, of > > > the CFML language kind of worries me. Kind of like the early > > > M$ vs. Netscape days when each company would introduce their > > > own variants of HTML. > > > > > > -- > > > Mosh Teitelbaum > > > evoch, LLC > > > Tel: (301) 625-9191 > > > Fax: (301) 933-3651 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
