On Monday, Oct 14, 2002, at 16:06 US/Pacific, Mosh Teitelbaum wrote:
> Macromedia's perceived lack of response has been a fairly popular 
> topic on
> this list.  While I don't completely agree with the perception, 
> anything
> that allows developers greater interaction with MM (such as a JCP-like
> program) would be awesome.

Anyone who has been involved with Sun's JCP - particularly in the early 
days - will have plenty to complain about. As someone who spent nearly 
ten years working on programming language standards - including the 
abortive attempts to persuade Sun to follow either the ISO or the ECMA 
path - I shudder to imagine ColdFusion developing in two incompatible 
ways!

> Again, this is exactly what
> Netscape and MS did with their browser-specific HTML variants and 
> we've all
> suffered as a result.

And more recently when MS tried to extend Java in ways not compatible 
with Sun's specification (remember the 'delegate' keyword?). It's why 
MS doesn't have a Java product any longer - because what they were 
selling under the name 'Java' was not really Java.

Now, I personally think that Sun's approach (stopping MS from selling a 
Java-based product) was a little heavy-handed and was not, overall, 
good for the industry.

Many C (and C++) compiler vendors have tried this in the past. 
Microsoft usually at the forefront of such abuse, Digital being another 
classic offender. It just creates ghettos in the programming world of 
people who can write X-variant of some language Y. It isn't good for 
the industry. I used to maintain a 250,000 line C / C++ code base that 
had to run on about 20 OS / hardware combinations. It was very hard to 
write portable code because of the differences in implementations!

Having said that, I think it's terrific that Blue Dragon exists - it 
validates ColdFusion in a very important way, reducing the stigma of 
'proprietary language'. I know New Atlanta have promised MX 
compatibility as well - again, an important validation of the direction 
Macromedia is taking ColdFusion.

"Conform! Consume! Obey!"
-- Mr Snaffleburger : http://www.matazone.co.uk/theotherside.html

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