hello,
I just started subscribing to this list recently, but I think it makes sense to keep "discussion/debate" posts on one list and technical posts on another. While some of the discussions are interesting, I think some people are really just interested in asking technical technical questions and trying to help others find answers to theirs. Just because some people decide to ignore the list guidelines doesn't mean the guidelines should be thrown away; these people should just be dealt with accordingly to keep the list free of clutter and flame. -Cliff On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 18:01:57 -0700 (PDT), Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > Exactly. > While I'm all for the continuation of CF Studio as the dev environment for > CF, it's not technical and takes up lots of space in debate. And did you > notice an OT on any of the posts? Maybe, but many mail readers rip off the > OT: prefix when replying. > I love my community but we do not normally prefix our posts in ways that > prove informative to others. In a perfect world Matt's suggestion would > work, but this is not such a world. > > > > Like this one? > > > > "Anybody want to start a petition for CF Studio!" > > > > Andy > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdinowit@;houseoffusion.com] > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:32 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Relationship posts > > > > > > > > > Or I can allow all posts and then clamp down on the ones that are > > > to far off > > > topic. > > > > > > > > > > I have seen this problem on so many lists it pains me to see you > repeat > > > > the same mistakes as others. These off topic posts aren't going away > no > > > > matter how many lists you create. You are either going to have make > this > > > > list moderated or allow off topic posts. Hence, why I suggested adding > > > > "[OT]" to people's subjects. It has worked for many other lists and it > > > > will work here. > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > President & CEO > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > <a href="http://mail.cliffmeyers.com/jump/http://www.montarasoftware.com";>http://www.montarasoftware.com</a>/ > > > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdinowit@;houseoffusion.com] > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:04 PM > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > Subject: Re: Relationship posts > > > > > > > > > > > While I agree that these posts are affecting the technical > > > > > > signal-to-noise ratio, I don't think that simply trying to move > them > > > > to > > > > > > other lists works. Most people don't want to have to subscribe to > > > > new > > > > > > lists especially when some of those lists have tons of posts with > no > > > > > > relation to CF e.g. CF-Community. > > > > > Which is why I suggested CF-Partners. It has no real traffic and can > > > > be > > > > > specific to these types of posts. > > > > > > > > > > > My suggestion is that people simply add "[OT]" to their posts and > > > > anyone > > > > > > who isn't interested in the off topic post can ignore it or better > > > > yet > > > > > > write a rule to handle it. > > > > > That sounds good in thought but in execution isn't going to work. > Most > > > > > people don't use prefixes for their posts to begin with and just > > > > having OT > > > > > as a prefix will still load up CF-Talk with non-tech posts. > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, I would like to add that rejecting posts to a thread that > > > > has > > > > > > been going on for weeks without warning is a poor way to handle > the > > > > > > situation. > > > > > Actually, I did ask people to stop and/or move the thread a few > times. > > > > How > > > > > many warnings are needed before I for it? I think that 2 warnings is > > > > more > > > > > than enough, personally. > > > > > > > > > > > Matt Liotta > > > > > > President & CEO > > > > > > Montara Software, Inc. > > > > > > <a href="http://mail.cliffmeyers.com/jump/http://www.montarasoftware.com";>http://www.montarasoftware.com</a>/ > > > > > > 888-408-0900 x901 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdinowit@;houseoffusion.com] > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 6:17 PM > > > > > > > To: CF-Talk > > > > > > > Subject: Relationship posts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the last few weeks the CF-Talk list has been inundated with > off > > > > > > topic > > > > > > > posts about the relationship between the ColdFusion community > and > > > > > > > Macromedia. These discussions are important and should continue > as > > > > a > > > > > > > healthy > > > > > > > debate, but they are NOT technical in nature. In order to try > and > > > > keep > > > > > > the > > > > > > > CF-Talk list to technical questions about ColdFusion, I'd like > to > > > > > > suggest > > > > > > > that those who want to discuss Macromedia and their practices > > > > > > subscribe to > > > > > > > the CF-Partners list. > > > > > > > If that list does not sound like the proper list, please email > me > > > > > > > personally > > > > > > > with a new name for the list and I'll take it into > consideration. > > > > > > > Thank you for helping keep this technical list valuable to the > > > > > > community > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > large. > > > > > > > "Only you can help the growth of ColdFusion knowledge, only you" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael Dinowitz > > > > > > > Master of the House of Fusion > > > > > > > <a href="http://mail.cliffmeyers.com/jump/http://www.houseoffusion.com";>http://www.houseoffusion.com</a> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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